[Year 12 SofDev] sofdev Digest, Vol 86, Issue 65
Vella, James
jvella at mackillop.vic.edu.au
Wed May 23 15:53:17 EST 2012
I'll also be keen for a listen if theres a chat about it on Saturday...as I'll also be there at ICTEV
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Mr James Vella
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: App development Sorry for the x-posts!) (Andrew Shortell)
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From: Andrew Shortell <shortell at get2me.net>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)
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go for it Adrian
I am on Board
Just been cruising the udemy course - not what I need to create a course for students but useful for me - I will work though it over the next few weeks
let me know where, when
Also I will be at ICTEV conf this Sat- maybe we can meet up during registration time or at lunch?
Andrew
Andrew Shortell
CRC Melton
shortell at get2me.net<mailto:shortell at get2me.net>
On 23/05/2012, at 2:56 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:
> I am sure my boss would be happy to let me come to Melbourne for a day to be part of this course/collaboration. Feels like we are on a 'freight train' of an idea just now. Or perhaps we could do some planning for this on a weekend or Sat morning sesssion perhaps.
>
> We could discuss say...
> Apps 'out there' already;
> Android vs iOS vs others.... as platforms for portable device
> developments...; Hardware people/schools use; Samples of Apps if some
> have been x-coded to share; Some sample teaching materials(i have the
> materials from the iOS course from Swinny for example includes screen casts and some pdf's/ppts)...could share these maybe?
>
> WARNING...x-code IS a big learning curve item!
>
> just some ideas to put 'out there' as a beginning point kiddies....
>
> KB.
> are we seeing the beginnings of a new era here??????? (or just a big
> green monster!)
>
> Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au<mailto:kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au>
>
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> on behalf of Andrew Shortell [shortell at get2me.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 2:18 PM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)
>
> me too
> Maybe we could organise a group collaboration on creating a course and then all run it in our schools, feedback to each other and create apps we could all use!!
>
> I would be happy to organise the collaboration if necessary - this woudl be an exciting project "going forward"
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Shortell
> CRC Melton
>
>
> shortell at get2me.net<mailto:shortell at get2me.net>
>
>
>
> On 23/05/2012, at 2:12 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:
>
>> Me too! 100% iPAD school here too now...plus PC's...
>> Count me in!
>> Kent
>>
>> Sent from KB's iPAD.
>>
>> On 23/05/2012, at 12:18 PM, "Travis Parker" <Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au<mailto:Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kevork,
>>>
>>> The thing with Adrian (And myself) is that our schools have invested
>>> a large amount of time and money into iPad programs and I checked
>>> out appinventor and it seems that they only export to android devices?
>>>
>>> There seems to be a text on "App inventing for iPhones" by Graeme
>>> Summers that I am ordering (Thanks Adrian) and a few of us are
>>> trying to organise a new year 10 iOS app development course. If
>>> anyone is interested please speak up!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Trav
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:14 AM
>>> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the
>>> x-posts!)
>>>
>>> Hi Adrian,
>>>
>>> This is all very useful to all of our colleagues.
>>>
>>> I recently completed an Android app writing PD at Swinburne Uni
>>> Hawthorn using appinventor ( see appinventor.org ) and found it very
>>> powerful and effortless in transferring to a phone or sharing with
>>> other phones. For those who don't have a phone an emulator will
>>> still allow testing of the app on Mac or PC. The resources
>>> (software, textbooks, completed apps ) are free online. The
>>> programming environment is a "scratch" type with no actual coding
>>> but a GUI to connect objects, add methods, change properties and
>>> parameters. This would translate to a Yr 8 to 10 course so much more
>>> easily than say writing code in XNA or in Objective C I feel.
>>>
>>> There are sections on using multi dimensional arrays, saving to a
>>> database and much more. Is it starting to look like it could slot
>>> into Software Development as a language ? Of course the coding would
>>> have to be done in Java for it to be acceptable. There are efforts
>>> to provide a java view of the Appinventor GUI see
>>> http://www.appinventor.org/roadmap
>>> but that would need to be clarified for Units 3 and 4 Software
>>> Development purposes.
>>>
>>> An equally useful discussion would be to compare the competing app
>>> writing and programming options. eg. Cost of registering as a devloper ?
>>> How much will students understand when writing code in a language
>>> like Objective C or C# for that matter ?
>>>
>>> One of the most useful apps in this series I worked on was "Find
>>> my car" which allows recording of the current location using the GPS
>>> feature in the phone and then after moving to another location
>>> requesting a map showing how to find the car again. This interfaced
>>> with a voice feature where instructions are announced on how to find
>>> your way back to the car or if they are in the same spot, the family
>>> members you may have lost ......
>>>
>>> All very exciting ...
>>>
>>> Keep well
>>>
>>> Kevork
>>>
>>>> Hi Travis,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for the previous email - I have just transitioned to a
>>>> new notebook and I had not set up my email signature yet!
>>>>
>>>> I also hope I didn't get your hopes up! - basically what I wanted
>>>> to say is that I have been teaching myself x-code / objective c
>>>> this year
>>>
>>>> and also plan to run an iPhone / iPad dev course in 2013 - I would
>>>> love to collaborate on something if you are interested?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adrian Janson B.Sc, Dip.Ed, M.Ed
>>>> eLearning Coordinator
>>>> Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141
>>> Australia.
>>>> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
>>>> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
>>>> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
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>>>> Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org
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>>>>
>>>> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>>> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>> On Behalf Of Travis Parker
>>>> Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 1:56 PM
>>>> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> Now that we have about 2250 iPads floating around the college, I
>>>> was thinking of implementing an "App Development" course at year 10
>>>> next year that will run for a semester. We have also got a lab of
>>>> 30 iMacs and was going to use them to create iPad apps (Using
>>>> XCode???). I was
>>>
>>>> wondering whether anyone does anything similar to this currently,
>>>> or has any ideas on what to include. I'd be happy to share and
>>>> compare notes and experiences with any interested parties.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Trav
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Travis Parker
>>>> Head of ICT and E-Learning
>>>> Beaconhills College
>>>> ( 1300 002 225 ext 3016
>>>> or Direct Dial (03) 5945 3016
>>>>
>>>>
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