[Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)

Andrew Shortell shortell at get2me.net
Wed May 23 15:27:36 EST 2012


go for it Adrian
I am on Board
Just been cruising the udemy course  - not what I need to create a course for students but useful for me - I will work though it over the next few weeks

let me know where, when 

Also I will be at ICTEV conf  this Sat- maybe we can meet up during registration time or at lunch?
Andrew

Andrew Shortell
CRC Melton


shortell at get2me.net



On 23/05/2012, at 2:56 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:

> I am sure my boss would be happy to let me come to Melbourne for a day to be part of this course/collaboration. Feels like we are on a 'freight train' of an idea just now. Or perhaps we could do some planning for this on a weekend or Sat morning sesssion perhaps.
>  
> We could discuss say...
> Apps 'out there' already;
> Android vs iOS vs others.... as platforms for portable device developments...;
> Hardware people/schools use;
> Samples of Apps if some have been x-coded to share;
> Some sample teaching materials(i have the materials from the iOS course from Swinny for example includes screen casts and some pdf's/ppts)...could share these maybe?
>  
> WARNING...x-code IS  a big learning curve item!
>  
> just some ideas to put 'out there' as a beginning point kiddies....
>  
> KB.
> are we seeing the beginnings of a new era here??????? (or just a big green monster!)
>  
> Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>  
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Andrew Shortell [shortell at get2me.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 2:18 PM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)
> 
> me too
> Maybe we could organise a group collaboration on creating a course and then all run it in our schools, feedback to each other and create apps we could all use!!
> 
> I would be happy to organise the collaboration if necessary - this woudl be an exciting project "going forward"
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Andrew Shortell
> CRC Melton
> 
> 
> shortell at get2me.net
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/05/2012, at 2:12 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:
> 
>> Me too! 100% iPAD school here too now...plus PC's...
>> Count me in!
>> Kent
>> 
>> Sent from KB's iPAD.
>> 
>> On 23/05/2012, at 12:18 PM, "Travis Parker" <Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> Kevork,
>>> 
>>> The thing with Adrian (And myself) is that our schools have invested a
>>> large amount of time and money into iPad programs and I checked out
>>> appinventor and it seems that they only export to android devices?
>>> 
>>> There seems to be a text on "App inventing for iPhones" by Graeme
>>> Summers that I am ordering (Thanks Adrian) and a few of us are trying to
>>> organise a new year 10 iOS app development course. If anyone is
>>> interested please speak up!
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Trav
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:14 AM
>>> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)
>>> 
>>> Hi Adrian,
>>> 
>>>  This is all very useful to all of our colleagues.
>>> 
>>> I recently completed an Android app writing PD at Swinburne Uni Hawthorn
>>> using appinventor ( see appinventor.org ) and found it very powerful and
>>> effortless in transferring to a phone or sharing with other phones. For
>>> those who don't have a phone an emulator will still allow testing of the
>>> app on Mac or PC. The resources (software, textbooks, completed apps )
>>> are free online. The programming environment is a "scratch" type with no
>>> actual coding but a GUI to connect objects, add methods, change
>>> properties and parameters. This would translate to a Yr 8 to 10 course
>>> so much more easily than say writing code in XNA or in Objective C I
>>> feel.
>>> 
>>> There are sections on using multi dimensional arrays, saving to a
>>> database and much more. Is it starting to look like it could slot into
>>> Software Development as a language ? Of course the coding would have to
>>> be done in Java for it to be acceptable. There are efforts to provide a
>>> java view of the Appinventor GUI see http://www.appinventor.org/roadmap
>>> but that would need to be clarified for Units 3 and 4 Software
>>> Development purposes.
>>> 
>>>   An equally useful discussion would be to compare the competing app
>>> writing and programming options. eg. Cost of registering as a devloper ?
>>> How much will students understand when writing code in a language like
>>> Objective C or C# for that matter ?
>>> 
>>>   One of the most useful apps in this series I worked on was "Find my
>>> car" which allows recording of the current location using the GPS
>>> feature in the phone and then after moving to another location
>>> requesting a map showing how to find the car again. This interfaced with
>>> a voice feature where instructions are announced on how to find your way
>>> back to the car or if they are in the same spot, the family members you
>>> may have lost ......
>>> 
>>>   All very exciting ...
>>> 
>>> Keep well
>>> 
>>> Kevork
>>> 
>>>> Hi Travis,
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies for the previous email - I have just transitioned to a new 
>>>> notebook and I had not set up my email signature yet!
>>>> 
>>>> I also hope I didn't get your hopes up! - basically what I wanted to 
>>>> say is that I have been teaching myself x-code / objective c this year
>>> 
>>>> and also plan to run an iPhone / iPad dev course in 2013 - I would 
>>>> love to collaborate on something if you are interested?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Adrian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Adrian Janson B.Sc, Dip.Ed, M.Ed
>>>> eLearning Coordinator
>>>> Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141
>>> Australia.
>>>> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
>>>> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
>>>> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>>> Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au
>>>> Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>>> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>> On Behalf Of Travis Parker
>>>> Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 1:56 PM
>>>> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)
>>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> Now that we have about 2250 iPads floating around the college, I was 
>>>> thinking of implementing an "App Development" course at year 10 next 
>>>> year that will run for a semester. We have also got a lab of 30 iMacs 
>>>> and  was going to use them to create iPad apps (Using XCode???). I was
>>> 
>>>> wondering whether anyone does anything similar to this currently, or 
>>>> has any ideas on what to include. I'd be happy to share and compare 
>>>> notes and experiences with any interested parties.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Trav
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Travis Parker
>>>> Head of ICT and E-Learning
>>>> Beaconhills College
>>>> ( 1300 002 225 ext 3016
>>>> or Direct Dial (03) 5945 3016
>>>> 
>>>> 
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