[Year 12 SofDev] Correction to SAC41

Wed Aug 22 07:56:25 EST 2012

This is one for Paula, but I can see problems proposing different modules
with similar levels of difficulty... it would be big SRS you'd have to
create!

Of course no unit 3/4 outcome can be undertaken as true group work, and
integration testing their modules would involve quite a bit of student and
code interaction...

On 21 August 2012 13:36, Shane Dawson <shaned at sjc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

>  Question about U401.  Is it possible to do it as a collaborative task,
> where there may be a number of modules that could be built by individual
> students to create a much bigger project when combined?  Obviously each
> module would need to be of a similar standard of difficulty and contain
> similar processes.****
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Margaret Iaquinto
> *Sent:* Sunday, 19 August 2012 5:01 PM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Correction to SAC41****
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> Agreed, U4O1 is not required to be a prototype. I look at it this way -- I
> will give my students an SRS. The scope and constraints will indicate what
> the solution can and cannot do. So prototype or not, students must write a
> solution according to the FRs and NFRs. Their testing is based on those
> requirements.
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> Thoughts from anyone?
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> on behalf of Kevork Krozian [kevork at edulists.com.au]
> *Sent:* Saturday, 18 August 2012 4:09 PM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Correction to SAC41****
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> Hi Folks,****
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>   A correction regarding SAC41 – it is not a prototype. ****
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> However there are a number of modifications to a fully deployed solution
> to run on a mobile device:****
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> 1.       The solution does not have to be implemented on an actual mobile
> device, but it should conform to the constraints of a mobile device.****
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> 2.       Discuss (not build) security measures that will be necessary to
> protect the information stored within and communicated between, the mobile
> software solution and related networks ****
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> 3.       Apply programming skills to create a software solution suitable
> for use on a mobile device****
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> 4.       Include internal documentation within the software solution****
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> 5.       Verify the performance of the software solution by selecting
> suitable test data and applying testing techniques****
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> Therefore the solution built for the assessment has to meet the above
> conditions.  ****
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> My impression was that since the solution does not have to be implemented
> on an actual device, does not have to have security built in to communicate
> with related networks then it would fall short of a full-fledged deployed
> and implemented solution. In other words some aspects of the solution would
> be incomplete. Prototype may not be the right term, but the solution is not
> a full one either.  Is a partial solution a prototype ? Is it a working
> model of a more complete solution ? It is not important what we call it,
> but what we actually ask the students to do.****
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> Please refer to the assessment handbook<http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/infotech/infotechhb-2011-2014.doc>to ensure all components of Task 1 and Task 2 in Outcome 41 are satisfied
> when deploying your SAC.****
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Kevork Krozian
> *Sent:* Friday, 17 August 2012 5:52 PM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and
> programming...****
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> Hi Sonia,****
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> In Software Development 2 programming SACs are to be undertaken – both
> prototypes. One is required to be for a mobile device, the other with no
> restriction as to deployment destination therefore I would expect ( happy
> to be corrected ) that it could also be for a mobile device. ****
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> It is not so much the SDK ( Software Development Kit ) or the IDE (
> Integrated Development Environment ) but the language that will be the test
> of approval or disapproval.****
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> The WindowsPhone SDK uses C#  which is approved. The XBox XNA environment
> is also programmed with C# which is also approved. I am told you can write
> Xbox games in Visual  Basic now.  See
> http://www.developers-challenges.com/vbarticles/xna-for-visual-basic/41-building-a-xna-game-in-vbnet.html
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> The iPhone and iPad applications are written in Objective C usually in the
> Cocoa framework in the XCode IDE . These are not exclusive eg. you don’t
> have use Cocoa or Xcode to write Objective C and you can use Xcode to write
> in other languages.  Interestingly, Cocoa was formerly NextStep hence the
> reference to objects such as NSString and NSObject.****
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> Eclipse is another IDE that is mostly used for programming in java but can
> be used for other languages see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(software) .  ****
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> The list of approved languages can be found at
> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/correspondence/bulletins/2010/June/vce_study.html#4
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> Basic (object-oriented variations only, e.g. VB.NET)
> C++
> C#
> Objective-C
> Pascal (object-oriented variations only, e.g. Delphi)
> Java
> Perl
> PHP
> Python
> Ruby****
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> I think C# would be a good choice for a programming language and IMHO more
> accessible than Objective C with Xcode for the students.****
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> For those embarking on Objective C, the best analogy would be trying to
> learn Mongolian for the first time for someone who is mono lingual ( not
> programmed before) or trying to learn Arabic for the first time for someone
> who is multi lingual ( has programmed before ). This is to write an
> original piece of software that is reasonably impressive and not replicate
> an existing program with the variables changed. ****
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Sonia McDonald
> *Sent:* Friday, 17 August 2012 9:14 AM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and
> programming...****
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> I'm most likely jumping in the middle of a conversation here - but,****
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> How likely is it that a language such as WindowsPhone SDK could be
> included on the list of languages?****
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> I have used the Xbox SDK, and iOS (for game development outside class
> time), and these also seem to have interesting/benificial applications -
> and could be interesting languages for students to learn (both are OO)...*
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> on behalf of Kent Beveridge [kbeveridge at stbc.vic..edu.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 17 August 2012 8:56 AM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming....
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> Sorry..forgot to add this to the possible options for the next "allowed
> languages" option for SD study design? It's very OO!
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>  *From:* Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au>
> *Date:* 17 August 2012 8:49:27 AM AEST
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <
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> *Subject:* *[Year 12 SofDev] WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming.....*
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>   Wondering how many out there are using or have tried this tool to use
> with programming or just to build Apps.****
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> I am currently looking at it. I like the emulator interface and actually
> prefer it to the GoogleAppInventor.****
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> People's thoughts?****
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> Kent.****
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> Ps. AJ it has XBox tools too! (XNA)
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> On 16/08/2012, at 2:37 PM, "Margaret King Iaquinto" <
> iaquinto at ozemail.com.au> wrote:****
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> In pseudocode, END IF does not need to be written. It commonly is -- but
> it is not required. I recall on past exams in SD that the assessors did not
> flag this as an error.****
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> I think this is because 'VB-centric' languages (wish I had a better way of
> describing this phenomenon since so many teachers use VB) require the END
> IF in the code. But some  languages, such as PHP, do not require it.****
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> But perhaps someone else might add to the discussion?****
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> [Year 12 SofDev] Pseudocode tweak - VITTA 2012 SD Exam #1, Question C8b***
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> Hi all. I believe in the VITTA 2012 SD Exam #1 there's a missing END IF to
> close the last IF in C8b.
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> It's not crucial to any of the subsequent questions, but you might want to
> add it before giving it to the kiddies.
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