[Year 12 SofDev] Correction to SAC41

Tue Aug 21 13:36:46 EST 2012

Question about U401.  Is it possible to do it as a collaborative task, where there may be a number of modules that could be built by individual students to create a much bigger project when combined?  Obviously each module would need to be of a similar standard of difficulty and contain similar processes.

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Margaret Iaquinto
Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2012 5:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Correction to SAC41

Agreed, U4O1 is not required to be a prototype. I look at it this way -- I will give my students an SRS. The scope and constraints will indicate what the solution can and cannot do. So prototype or not, students must write a solution according to the FRs and NFRs. Their testing is based on those requirements.

Thoughts from anyone?

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Kevork Krozian [kevork at edulists.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012 4:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Correction to SAC41
Hi Folks,

  A correction regarding SAC41 - it is not a prototype.
However there are a number of modifications to a fully deployed solution to run on a mobile device:

1.       The solution does not have to be implemented on an actual mobile device, but it should conform to the constraints of a mobile device.

2.       Discuss (not build) security measures that will be necessary to protect the information stored within and communicated between, the mobile software solution and related networks

3.       Apply programming skills to create a software solution suitable for use on a mobile device

4.       Include internal documentation within the software solution

5.       Verify the performance of the software solution by selecting suitable test data and applying testing techniques

Therefore the solution built for the assessment has to meet the above conditions.
My impression was that since the solution does not have to be implemented on an actual device, does not have to have security built in to communicate with related networks then it would fall short of a full-fledged deployed and implemented solution. In other words some aspects of the solution would be incomplete. Prototype may not be the right term, but the solution is not a full one either.  Is a partial solution a prototype ? Is it a working model of a more complete solution ? It is not important what we call it, but what we actually ask the students to do.
Please refer to the assessment handbook<http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/infotech/infotechhb-2011-2014.doc> to ensure all components of Task 1 and Task 2 in Outcome 41 are satisfied when deploying your SAC.

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Friday, 17 August 2012 5:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming...

Hi Sonia,

In Software Development 2 programming SACs are to be undertaken - both prototypes. One is required to be for a mobile device, the other with no restriction as to deployment destination therefore I would expect ( happy to be corrected ) that it could also be for a mobile device.

It is not so much the SDK ( Software Development Kit ) or the IDE ( Integrated Development Environment ) but the language that will be the test of approval or disapproval.

The WindowsPhone SDK uses C#  which is approved. The XBox XNA environment is also programmed with C# which is also approved. I am told you can write Xbox games in Visual  Basic now.  See http://www.developers-challenges.com/vbarticles/xna-for-visual-basic/41-building-a-xna-game-in-vbnet.html

The iPhone and iPad applications are written in Objective C usually in the Cocoa framework in the XCode IDE . These are not exclusive eg. you don't have use Cocoa or Xcode to write Objective C and you can use Xcode to write in other languages.  Interestingly, Cocoa was formerly NextStep hence the reference to objects such as NSString and NSObject.

Eclipse is another IDE that is mostly used for programming in java but can be used for other languages see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(software) .

The list of approved languages can be found at http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/correspondence/bulletins/2010/June/vce_study.html#4

These are :
Basic (object-oriented variations only, e.g. VB.NET)
C++
C#
Objective-C
Pascal (object-oriented variations only, e.g. Delphi)
Java
Perl
PHP
Python
Ruby

I think C# would be a good choice for a programming language and IMHO more accessible than Objective C with Xcode for the students.
For those embarking on Objective C, the best analogy would be trying to learn Mongolian for the first time for someone who is mono lingual ( not programmed before) or trying to learn Arabic for the first time for someone who is multi lingual ( has programmed before ). This is to write an original piece of software that is reasonably impressive and not replicate an existing program with the variables changed.

Happy to be corrected regarding anything stated here including how hard it is to learn Arabic ( not qualified to comment about Mongolian )

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Sonia McDonald
Sent: Friday, 17 August 2012 9:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming...

I'm most likely jumping in the middle of a conversation here - but,

How likely is it that a language such as WindowsPhone SDK could be included on the list of languages?

I have used the Xbox SDK, and iOS (for game development outside class time), and these also seem to have interesting/benificial applications - and could be interesting languages for students to learn (both are OO)...

It would be good to see this type of technology appearing on the list...

Cheers,

Sonia McDonald

Teacher of Information Technology/Multimedia - Garnsey Campus

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Kent Beveridge [kbeveridge at stbc.vic..edu.au]
Sent: Friday, 17 August 2012 8:56 AM
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Sorry..forgot to add this to the possible options for the next "allowed languages" option for SD study design? It's very OO!

Kent Beveridge
ICT Coordinator & Maths teacher

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From: Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au<mailto:kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au>>
Date: 17 August 2012 8:49:27 AM AEST
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming.....
Reply-To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev at edulists.com.au>>
Wondering how many out there are using or have tried this tool to use with programming or just to build Apps.
I am currently looking at it. I like the emulator interface and actually prefer it to the GoogleAppInventor.
People's thoughts?
Kent.
Ps. AJ it has XBox tools too! (XNA)

Kent Beveridge
ICT Coordinator & Maths teacher

On 16/08/2012, at 2:37 PM, "Margaret King Iaquinto" <iaquinto at ozemail.com.au<mailto:iaquinto at ozemail.com.au>> wrote:
Hi Mark

In pseudocode, END IF does not need to be written. It commonly is -- but it is not required. I recall on past exams in SD that the assessors did not flag this as an error.

I think this is because 'VB-centric' languages (wish I had a better way of describing this phenomenon since so many teachers use VB) require the END IF in the code. But some  languages, such as PHP, do not require it.

But perhaps someone else might add to the discussion?

 Maggie
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[Year 12 SofDev] Pseudocode tweak - VITTA 2012 SD Exam #1, Question C8b

Hi all. I believe in the VITTA 2012 SD Exam #1 there's a missing END IF to close the last IF in C8b.

It's not crucial to any of the subsequent questions, but you might want to add it before giving it to the kiddies.

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