[Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming...

Fri Aug 17 17:52:17 EST 2012

Hi Sonia,

In Software Development 2 programming SACs are to be undertaken - both
prototypes. One is required to be for a mobile device, the other with no
restriction as to deployment destination therefore I would expect ( happy to
be corrected ) that it could also be for a mobile device. 

It is not so much the SDK ( Software Development Kit ) or the IDE (
Integrated Development Environment ) but the language that will be the test
of approval or disapproval.

The WindowsPhone SDK uses C#  which is approved. The XBox XNA environment is
also programmed with C# which is also approved. I am told you can write Xbox
games in Visual  Basic now.  See
http://www.developers-challenges.com/vbarticles/xna-for-visual-basic/41-buil
ding-a-xna-game-in-vbnet.html 

The iPhone and iPad applications are written in Objective C usually in the
Cocoa framework in the XCode IDE . These are not exclusive eg. you don't
have use Cocoa or Xcode to write Objective C and you can use Xcode to write
in other languages.  Interestingly, Cocoa was formerly NextStep hence the
reference to objects such as NSString and NSObject.

Eclipse is another IDE that is mostly used for programming in java but can
be used for other languages see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(software) .  

The list of approved languages can be found at
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/correspondence/bulletins/2010/June/vce_study.html
#4 

These are :

Basic (object-oriented variations only, e.g. VB.NET)
C++
C#
Objective-C
Pascal (object-oriented variations only, e.g. Delphi)
Java
Perl
PHP
Python
Ruby

I think C# would be a good choice for a programming language and IMHO more
accessible than Objective C with Xcode for the students.

For those embarking on Objective C, the best analogy would be trying to
learn Mongolian for the first time for someone who is mono lingual ( not
programmed before) or trying to learn Arabic for the first time for someone
who is multi lingual ( has programmed before ). This is to write an original
piece of software that is reasonably impressive and not replicate an
existing program with the variables changed. 

Happy to be corrected regarding anything stated here including how hard it
is to learn Arabic ( not qualified to comment about Mongolian )

Kind Regards

Kevork Krozian

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Sonia McDonald
Sent: Friday, 17 August 2012 9:14 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming...

I'm most likely jumping in the middle of a conversation here - but,

How likely is it that a language such as WindowsPhone SDK could be included
on the list of languages?

I have used the Xbox SDK, and iOS (for game development outside class time),
and these also seem to have interesting/benificial applications - and could
be interesting languages for students to learn (both are OO)...

It would be good to see this type of technology appearing on the list...

Cheers,

Sonia McDonald

Teacher of Information Technology/Multimedia - Garnsey Campus

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
behalf of Kent Beveridge [kbeveridge at stbc.vic..edu.au]
Sent: Friday, 17 August 2012 8:56 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming....

Sorry..forgot to add this to the possible options for the next "allowed
languages" option for SD study design? It's very OO!

Kent Beveridge 

ICT Coordinator & Maths teacher

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Date: 17 August 2012 8:49:27 AM AEST
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming.....
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Wondering how many out there are using or have tried this tool to use with
programming or just to build Apps.

I am currently looking at it. I like the emulator interface and actually
prefer it to the GoogleAppInventor.

People's thoughts?

Kent.

Ps. AJ it has XBox tools too! (XNA)

Kent Beveridge 

ICT Coordinator & Maths teacher

On 16/08/2012, at 2:37 PM, "Margaret King Iaquinto"
<iaquinto at ozemail.com.au> wrote:

Hi Mark 

In pseudocode, END IF does not need to be written. It commonly is -- but it
is not required. I recall on past exams in SD that the assessors did not
flag this as an error.

I think this is because 'VB-centric' languages (wish I had a better way of
describing this phenomenon since so many teachers use VB) require the END IF
in the code. But some  languages, such as PHP, do not require it.

But perhaps someone else might add to the discussion?

 Maggie
VK3CFI

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[Year 12 SofDev] Pseudocode tweak - VITTA 2012 SD Exam #1, Question C8b

Hi all. I believe in the VITTA 2012 SD Exam #1 there's a missing END IF to
close the last IF in C8b. 

It's not crucial to any of the subsequent questions, but you might want to
add it before giving it to the kiddies.

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