[Year 12 SofDev] Reading and Writing text data files in VB2010

Robert Hind robert at yinnar.com
Thu May 12 16:29:20 EST 2011


Please no PSV :-)

CSV is supposed to be a "standard" - and MS Excel produces very nice CSV files using the double quotes and allows commas within the quotes. Eg

"Fred, Blogs","24 Overshot Lane, Overthetop, Vic, 3000"

So if MS Excel can produce these files, why on earth can MS VBNET not accommodate them?

Of course, following the ItApps discussion on normalisation, I would prefer to separate the individual parts of names and addresses to give us

"Fred","Blogs","24 Overshot Lane","Overthetop","Vic","3000"

Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM
Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark KELLY 
  To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Reading and Writing text data files in VB2010


  Well, you could but you'd have PSV (pipe separated values) instead of CSV  :-)

  Most generic textual data is CSV (with double quotes)... I don't know why VB can't accommodate them, even as an option.


  On 12 May 2011 15:31, Margaret King Iaquinto <iaquinto at ozemail.com.au> wrote:

    Can you use the pipe symbol (|) as a delimiter in VBNEB? In PHP that works. Then the other commas don't get in the way.

    VK3CFI 

    On Thu May 12 12:32 , 'ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien' sent:


      No, I can’t seem to find a way to do that, but as a very dodgy workaround, edit the CSV file so that there’s a double comma separating each item and split on that, then you can keep a single comma inside some text

      Eg 

      1,,WE RUN THE NIGHT,,DJ Havana, Brown,,ISL/UMA

      Dim Values() As String = Split(strAlbumName, ",")

      Would split everything normally and allow a comma between Havana and Brown. 



            Damien Atkinson-Buck
            Member of Academic Staff (Secondary)


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      From: Mark KELLY [mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au] 
      Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2011 11:19 AM
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      Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Reading and Writing text data files in VB2010



      I've just tested it, and Split() does not honour quotation marks: it reads them in with the rest of the text.  
      So if a data item contained a comma, it would be seen as a delimiter  :-(

      On 12 May 2011 09:37, ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien <Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK at ivanhoe.com.au> wrote:

      Mark, thanks for another great tutorial. Building on Marks work might be what you need Trav



      One of the more common uses of reading a text file is to read various values of a CSV (comma separated values) file, where individual items (think fields of a flat file database) are read into an array for future processing. Visual Basic has a very nice easy way to do this using the Split function. Imagine that you have the above text file with the following data copied from this week’s Aria charts;



      1,WE RUN THE NIGHT,DJ Havana Brown,ISL/UMA

      2,FROM THE MUSIC,The Potbelleez,VIC/UMA

      3,WHAT HAPPENED TO USJessica Mauboy Feat. Jay Sean,SME

      4,DANCE WITH ME,Justice Crew Feat. Flo Rida,SME

      5,FRIDAY TO SUNDAY,Justice Crew,SME

      6,MAYBE,Sick Puppies,VIR/EMI



              Dim TextFile As New System.IO.StreamReader("u:\albums.txt ")

              Dim strAlbumName As String

              strAlbumName = TextFile.ReadLine()

              Do Until strAlbumName Is Nothing

                  'lstAlbums.Items.Add(strAlbumName)

                  Dim Values() As String = Split(strAlbumName, ",")

                  strAlbumName = TextFile.ReadLine()

             ' Values(0) now contains first column value,

             ' Values(1) contains second column, etc.

              Loop

              TextFile.Close()

              TextFile.Dispose()



      Cheers

            Damien Atkinson-Buck
            Member of Academic Staff (Secondary)


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      From: Travis Parker [mailto:Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au] 
      Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2011 9:26 AM


      To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List

      Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Reading and Writing text data files in VB2010



      Thanks for that Mark. I have been using something similar with my students, particularly as the SAC I have written includes reading from a text file (A prototype helpdesk, including type of job, computer, priority, etc) and creating a new text file with jobs for the techies in a prioritised order.



      One thing I was wondering though, does anyone have anything good on reading comma separated text files? All the programs I have gotten my students to create read them a line at a time, but I would ideally like to see something like this line - tim.cox, hardware, 12, ps40, 2 read into arrays. So I would have a “Name†, “Issue†, “Computer_Number†, “Room_Number†, “Priority†or something like that. I’m fine with the arrays, but how would I read it in word at a time (i.e. Between commas†rather than line at a time?



      With many thanks for a first year SD newbie……



      Trav











      From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
      Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 12:45 PM
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      Hi, you paragons of pedagogy.  I've been putting off teaching my kids how to read and write text data files in VB but having investigated today, it's not really more difficult than the days of VB6 with OPEN "file" FOR INPUT AS 1 ... INPUT #1, data.

      I've attached an adapted tutorial on reading and writing text files with a task involving reading and writing a preferences file (with solution).

      Once your kids can do data files, it greatly opens the scope for populating and playing with really large arrays and makes loops meaningful.  

      I remember how excited I was when I first discovered text files decades ago - it was like finding mum's car keys.  My programming world blossomed from that point.

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