[Year 12 SofDev] Re GUI and Data Structures
Russell Quinn
QN at boxhillhs.vic.edu.au
Mon Nov 29 13:35:25 EST 2010
Hi,
I read into a user defined structure and take the part(s) I
want, process as I want and place them into the (say)
list box. The reason I do this I learned in my professional
career - you keep control and are not messed around with
changes introduced in new versions. It is a reliable approach.
For example, we always wrote unix scripts on Borne shell since
it is the most basic and does not change. I teach my students
that the easiest or most stylish is not always the best.
Regards,
Russell Quinn
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:20:20 +1100
From: Lony Hem <lonyhem1 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Trying to understand the new course
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Great!
Thanks all for your tips and links.
@Mark
I'd most likely be spending my sunny days on this too...
Regards,
Lony
From: kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:39:45 +1100
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Trying to understand the new course
Welcome Lony.
I've done a side-by-side comparison of the old and new ITA outcomes, but not of those in SD.
Best advice I can give is to find a couple of different coloured highlighters, crack open both study designs and compare each outcome for similar and new key knowledge content.
A fun way to spend a rainy weekend ;-)
Regards
Mark
On 27 November 2010 10:10, Davies, Brett <bdavies at woodleigh.vic.edu.au> wrote:
Lony,
welcome aboard:
The two resources you need are:
1: Mark Kelly's http://www.vceit.com
2: Adrian Jansons http://www.adrianjanson.com.au/
Read them and your gonna feel better
Cheers
Brett
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Sent: Saturday, 27 November 2010 9:34 AM
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Trying to understand the new course
Hi all,
I've just registered on this edumail.
I'm new teacher out, teaching this subject next year for the first time.
This years resources has been handed over to me.
My questions are:
How much of this years exam/resources would be relevant to the new study design?
What are the new things I'd be adding to the current resources? Already I am hearing things such as SRS, ISO and UML use case.
Thanks all for your time.
Regards,
Lony Hem
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:21:43 +1100
From: Lony Hem <lonyhem1 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Trying to understand the new course
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Hi Renata,
May i request Helen, Kate's email please.
Regards,
Lony
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Trying to understand the new course
Great!
Thanks all for your tips and links.
@Mark
I'd most likely be spending my sunny days on this too...
Regards,
Lony
From: kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:39:45 +1100
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Trying to understand the new course
Welcome Lony.
I've done a side-by-side comparison of the old and new ITA outcomes, but not of those in SD.
Best advice I can give is to find a couple of different coloured highlighters, crack open both study designs and compare each outcome for similar and new key knowledge content.
A fun way to spend a rainy weekend ;-)
Regards
Mark
On 27 November 2010 10:10, Davies, Brett <bdavies at woodleigh.vic.edu.au> wrote:
Lony,
welcome aboard:
The two resources you need are:
1: Mark Kelly's http://www.vceit.com
2: Adrian Jansons http://www.adrianjanson.com.au/
Read them and your gonna feel better
Cheers
Brett
________________________________________
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Lony Hem [lonyhem1 at hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 27 November 2010 9:34 AM
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Trying to understand the new course
Hi all,
I've just registered on this edumail.
I'm new teacher out, teaching this subject next year for the first time.
This years resources has been handed over to me.
My questions are:
How much of this years exam/resources would be relevant to the new study design?
What are the new things I'd be adding to the current resources? Already I am hearing things such as SRS, ISO and UML use case.
Thanks all for your time.
Regards,
Lony Hem
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Mark Kelly
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:38:39 +1100
From: Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] A matter of style - GUI data structures vs
primitives
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Hi all. Just had an odd passing thought while working on a programming
skills theory slideshow. (Don't you hate it when you actually start *
thinking* while getting work done?)
Most programming languages now offer GUI data structures like listboxes,
grids etc.
I'm interested to know how many people use them as their primary data
structures as opposed to using arrays to store and manipulate data and then
populating the GUI structure with data from the array.
I tend to use the latter method for intensive manipulation needs, and the
former for simple storage & display.
What sort of performance penalty does the use of the GUI data structure
impose? Do the GUI structure's capabilities (e.g. auto-sorting lists)
outweigh the penalty?
How efficient is the GUI's inbuilt sorting algorithm compared to a good
do-it-yourself sorting algorithm? (I tend to think the built-in one will
beat mine any day.)
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Mark Kelly
Manager Information Systems
Reporting Manager
IT Learning Area Manager
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204
Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085
Fax +613 9578 9253
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:50:36 +1100
From: "Laurie Savage" <savage.john.l at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] A matter of style - GUI data structures
vs primitives
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Serious question: Is a GUI widget a data structure or a tool for displaying
a data structure?
Laurie
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Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 10:39 AM
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] A matter of style - GUI data structures vs
primitives
Hi all. Just had an odd passing thought while working on a programming
skills theory slideshow. (Don't you hate it when you actually start
thinking while getting work done?)
Most programming languages now offer GUI data structures like listboxes,
grids etc.
I'm interested to know how many people use them as their primary data
structures as opposed to using arrays to store and manipulate data and then
populating the GUI structure with data from the array.
I tend to use the latter method for intensive manipulation needs, and the
former for simple storage & display.
What sort of performance penalty does the use of the GUI data structure
impose? Do the GUI structure's capabilities (e.g. auto-sorting lists)
outweigh the penalty?
How efficient is the GUI's inbuilt sorting algorithm compared to a good
do-it-yourself sorting algorithm? (I tend to think the built-in one will
beat mine any day.)
--
Mark Kelly
Manager Information Systems
Reporting Manager
IT Learning Area Manager
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204
Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085
Fax +613 9578 9253
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
VCE IT Lecture Notes: http://vceit.com
Moderator: IT Applications Edulist
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dairy.
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