[Year 12 SofDev] Ifad in schools

Mon Nov 15 08:46:34 EST 2010

same as it ever was - just change the name to ifad and repeat mistakes until next toy arrives

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Gordon Poultney
Horsham College

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Don Morelli (Optus)
Sent: Mon 15/11/10 6:53
To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

This is my biggest concern. The here it is, now do something with it model of education. We don't even have a clear picture of what their capabilities are-just rumours and glossy ads.

Cheers Don 

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2010 8:07 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Hi Don,

Thanks for the quick response.

I  do worry as schools dive in with the Ipads and will hit the wall fairly soon into the new year and then begin the investigation ......

I am hearing whispers of special offers and other deals which makes me think the deal is driving the curriculum which is rather reckless.

Interestingly NSW does not accept the Ipad as a computer on the NCSSF funding while VIC does accept it.....

Kind Regards

Kevork

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Don Morelli (Optus)
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2010 3:44 PM
To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Kevok, I tried to run geogebra (java) on the iPad and it does not support it. Checked the iPad faqs and apparently Steve Jobs does not like Java either.

There are several android based tablets that offer the flash and Java functionality, but in my opinion it is best to wait before swimming into this pool or the apple pool.

This website gives some alternatives that you could look at and the last one is possibly the one that Robert T-A is referring to.

http://mashable.com/2010/01/27/9-upcoming-tablet-alternatives-to-the-apple-ipad/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/16/viewsonic-outs-10-inch-g-tablet-android-2-2-nvidia-tegra-2-on/

http://www.toptechreviews.net/gadgets/samsung-galaxy-tablet-ipad%E2%80%99s-new-rival/

Dell also has a tablet PD with touch technology but you would want this price to come down (around$3500)

Cheers Don

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2010 10:22 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Cc: elearning Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Hi Folks,

Sorry for cross posting but very topical for our elearning colleagues ...

I have spoken to 3 schools who are doing just this, Ipads at year 7 and when I raise these concerns with Flash and Java not running I get a blank stare. 

Is there anyone out there who has considered the issues and found a resolution/workaround or other approach apart from html5 will solve all the problems which may or may not happen and may or may not take 3 to 5 years ....

Kind Regards

Kevork

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Don Morelli (Optus)
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:45 PM
To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

The decision has been made Allison which is unfortunate for your school as not only does the iPad not support Flash but it also does not support Java. So you can't run java apps like Geogebra in Maths, which is worth its weight in gold. There are many programs that teachers use to help students to understand concepts in particular learning areas that are not about communication, collaboration and research (some of the web 2.0 stuff). These will not run on the iPad. It will be interesting to see how much of the "cloud computing software " will run on it without problems.  Try running Mathletics and I think that you will have a problem with that as well.  I am sure that in the next year or so things will change, but the range of activities that you can carry out on the iPad now, that have educational value is limited.

Good luck in trying to develop a curriculum-at least it is only year 7

Cheers Don 

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Allison KENINS
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:00 PM
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Hi All

Sorry for not being specific to Software Development. 
My school is introducing iPads to our incoming year 7's and throwing out the textbooks in all subjects. As my other method is maths and this is a concern to a few of the other teachers, I was wondering if anyone else's school is doing something similar and wanting to know what you think. Major concern for us is that we use lots of websites that are Flash based and therefore wont work (as far as I've been told) and we now need to redevelop our year 7 curriculum before the start of next year.

Any comments would be welcome.

Allison
Ringwood Secondary College 

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