[Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 30
Ogilvie, Ross A
ogilvie.ross.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
Sun May 18 17:41:48 EST 2008
Hi Kevork,
Thank you for your support. This subject has been the biggest educational challenge of my life. Basically, I returned from a secondment to Melton working in a program for diasadvantaged kids......not having touched programming for a couple of years......and was thrown to the lions!! I have great support from Maggie Iquanito and Andrew Shortell, the latter who is helping me come up to VB speed once a week.
I haven't screamed or yelled yet Kevork but I may yet.
I must say a big thankyou for your creation of edulists (and all those who have kindly contributed) as it has saved my bacon on a number of occasions.
Thanks mate.
Ross Ogilvie
LSF ICT Leader
Sunbury College
30 Racecourse Rd, Sunbury 3429
Ph (W) 9744 1066
(H) 54272843
Bookmarks: http://del.icio.us/Ross1956
Wiki: http://ross1956.wikispaces.com/
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Today's Topics:
1. o/t Right sizing school network funding? (stephen at melbpc.org.au)
2. RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 27 (Kevork Krozian)
3. VB Training / Inservice / PD (Owen, Jamie)
4. Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4
(Lisa Chadderton)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:53:12 GMT
From: stephen at melbpc.org.au
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] o/t Right sizing school network funding?
To: itapps at edulists.com.au, sofdev at edulists.com.au
Cc: yr7-10it at edulists.com.au
Message-ID: <20080515125312.3F17C17874 at vscan42.melbpc.org.au>
Hi all,
Old friend needs, 'a list of principles for principals to take into
account when deciding on funding priorities for the schools network
(hence looking into stuff on the server room). What would you think a
principal needs to understand about disaster recovery, server rooms ..
Trying to give information to right size that, not over or underspend
so more to spend on T&L. What do you think?'
Help!! How do you/principals right-size school Network funding?
Believe me, your email answer WILL be heard in places that matter.
http://lists.rite.ed.qut.edu.au/pipermail/oz-teachers/2006-
December/008983.html
Q: They are building a new school, and with that i am getting a new server
room!!! What are the must have's for a techies room. I should be getting
benches right round the room, with power and LAN ports. That's the basics,
what else should i ask for???
Ans:
1. Make sure they put the data points and power points above the bench
tops. Had a new server room built at one of my schools last year when I
wasn't there and they put all the points under the bench
2. Quick thoughts about new server room. If i have choice, I would have
Tech enviroment as below:
A) tech office with bench space and shelves. Bench height will be for you
comfortably work on your computers. Bench around the wall of the whole
tech office room. Shelves for books, CDs, and small items. Where is server
go? It's a bit too much for about 30 kg servers to sit on shelves. I have
servers sit on self made stand, off floor. We gain a lot of bench space.
Only LCD Monitors sit on Bench. With KVM help, 4 LCDs link to about 7
Machines including a mini test system. One of the room I work in is the IT
teacher office. Many people walk in and out the room, servers gain quite a
lot dust as time pass. Another place is just for IT techs so servers are
much better.
B) If your school can afford, you could have a adjacent cool room only for
servers with glass wall which you can see through. All the servers are
fixed on rack. Rack is in the middle of cool room. If necessary, you can
check back of server easily. I A lot of place, tech try to squeeze into
the gap to see the connections at back of servers and switches / router.
6 years ago, I ever experienced to crawl on carpet to work on look
Monitor screen at one of my school. After my suggestion, AP lifted the
Monitor to higher sliding board. To be able to access back of cable
cabinet is so important for service person. Whenever I can, I always
locate cabinet like this.
You remotely access all server while you in tech office. You go to cool
room only necessary. Becasue cool room is supposed to be a bit lower
temperature than office room.
C) Ideally, you will have a small storage room which have a lot of rack or
shelves for parts and etc. So you keep tech office tidy and can straight
into your work.
D) Other small bits will be: a few extra gigabyte Network points near
your servers and switches. You can use them as backup links or make 2 G
backbone. A couple direct phone lines in tech office. One for phone call
and one for dial up test for teacher laptops as some still use dial up at
home. Some schools has extra phone lines in server room for teachers and
tech to access servers. VPN is another way for this. Another thing, I
wouldn't be against to have a vendor drink machine in tech room. It will
be handy when you feel like to have a short black or latte. This might
only remains as a hope in next tech life.
3. Have a separate room with appropriate A/C, no carpet, for your
server/switch/router racks. Take care to make it as dustless as possible.
Make sure racks are mounted in the middle of the room so that you can walk
easily around them. Have your office/store room etc next door, preferably
with a window to see through into the actual server room. Have a KVM with
enough ports to service all your servers (and then some) so that you only
need one monitor/keyboard/mouse. Use RDP for all access to servers that
don't require actual physical access to the console.
4. You may want to install a temperature sensor that can email you if the
temp goes over a certain value. Make sure the room is physically very
secure. Perhaps a pin number controlled lock so that only the appropriate
people can gain access.
5. In terms of a fire, make sure they don't put a water sprinkler in
there. If you need fire suppression for the reg's, a CO2 one is the only
way to go in a computer room.
Have the room wired on a single/dual UPS, so that all the power coming
into the room is filtered and on backup batteries. saves heaps of smaller
usp's about the place. If you have box servers and not rack mount servers
make sure you have twice as many power points as you need.
6. Get them to put some fibre runs to your servers as well. good if you
want to get into fibre channel storage, or want to run 10gb out of your
servers.
--
Regards people
Stephen Loosley
Victoria Australia
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:23:19 +1000
From: "Kevork Krozian" <Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 27
To: <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
Message-ID: <482D5270.EE3E.0095.0 at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au>
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Hi Ross,
I have never met you, but from your messages I am genuinely concerned about how you're coping with the programming this year.
I want to invite you to ask, yell, scream or do anything else you need to do on these lists to get the help you require to survive the year.
Sometimes we don't realise the sort of pressure teachers are under when they try mind expanding tasks in limited time with limited support.
This is the reason I created edulists, having experienced a period in my teaching not dissimilar to what you are going through now ......
Take Care
Kevork
>>> "Ogilvie, Ross A" <ogilvie.ross.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> 15/05/2008 7:58 pm >>>
Thats what I thought Fatima. I'm new to SD as well..........how are you going?
Getting my head around SAC2 at the moment......have managed to get up to speed with programming in VB for the software module.....just have to get my head around testing tables, validation and N/S (Nazi) diagrams...(Don't mention the war!!!!!!)
Regards
Ross Ogilvie
LSF ICT Leader
Sunbury College
30 Racecourse Rd, Sunbury 3429
Ph (W) 9744 1066
(H) 54272843
Bookmarks: http://del.icio.us/Ross1956
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Today's Topics:
1. VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4 (Lisa Chadderton)
2. RE: VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4 (Fatima Nazar)
3. RE: U3O2 SAC (Fatima Nazar)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:26:55 +1000
From: "Lisa Chadderton" <lisa.chadderton at gmail.com>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4
To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
<itapps at edulists.com.au>, "Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List" <sofdev at edulists.com.au>, year11it at edulists.com.au
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Do you need to refresh your VCE IT Units 2 & 4 skills? Do you want to learn
from experienced teachers who are operating in the classroom? New and
experienced teachers of Year 11 and 12 VCE IT are invited to share in the *VCE
IT Day: Units 2 & 4* experience and gain the knowledge you need to implement
the ITA, SD and Unit 2 IT study design with your students.
*Date:* Friday 15th February
*Venue:* The University of Melbourne, ICT Building, 111 Barry Street,
Carlton (Malways 2B C9)
*Time:* 8:30am - 3:15pm
*Sessions:*
1) Overview: Relationship between the curriculum and the assessment (Paula
Christophersen - VCAA)
2) Choose *two* of the following three sessions:
- Year 11 Unit 2 - IT Pathways Outcomes 1 - 3
- Software Development Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2
- ITA Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2
*Cost:*
VITTA Individual Members - $195
VITTA School Members - $230
Non-VITTA Members - $260
Register online at www.vitta.org.au/events or call the VITTA office on 9495
6836 for more information.
*Please note.* This event is a sequal to the VCE IT Day: Units 1 & 3 held in
February of this year. If you have already registered for both days, there
is no need to re-register. You will be sent a reminder/ confirmation email
shortly. Those of you who did not attend the initial day in February are
still welcome to attend the VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4 as it is not necessary
to attend both and materials are independant.
See you there
Lisa
--
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Senior Project Officer
VITTA
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:39:43 +1000
From: "Fatima Nazar" <fnazar at sfx.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4
To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
<sofdev at edulists.com.au>
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Hi Lisa,
I am interested but the date is 15th feb? has this already happened?
Fatima
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lisa Chadderton
Sent: Thu 5/15/2008 2:26 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List; year11it at edulists.com.au
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4
Do you need to refresh your VCE IT Units 2 & 4 skills? Do you want to learn from experienced teachers who are operating in the classroom? New and experienced teachers of Year 11 and 12 VCE IT are invited to share in the VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4 experience and gain the knowledge you need to implement the ITA, SD and Unit 2 IT study design with your students.
Date: Friday 15th February
Venue: The University of Melbourne, ICT Building, 111 Barry Street, Carlton (Malways 2B C9)
Time: 8:30am - 3:15pm
Sessions:
1) Overview: Relationship between the curriculum and the assessment (Paula Christophersen - VCAA)
2) Choose two of the following three sessions:
- Year 11 Unit 2 - IT Pathways Outcomes 1 - 3
- Software Development Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2
- ITA Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2
Cost:
VITTA Individual Members - $195
VITTA School Members - $230
Non-VITTA Members - $260
Register online at www.vitta.org.au/events or call the VITTA office on 9495 6836 for more information.
Please note. This event is a sequal to the VCE IT Day: Units 1 & 3 held in February of this year. If you have already registered for both days, there is no need to re-register. You will be sent a reminder/ confirmation email shortly. Those of you who did not attend the initial day in February are still welcome to attend the VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4 as it is not necessary to attend both and materials are independant.
See you there
Lisa
--
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Lisa Chadderton
Senior Project Officer
VITTA
P: +61 3 9495 6836
F: +61 3 9495 6834
M: 0402522596
E: lisa at vitta.org.au
W: www.vitta.org.au <http://www.vitta.org.au/>
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PO Box 1099
Collingwood VIC 3066
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:44:39 +1000
From: "Fatima Nazar" <fnazar at sfx.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 SAC
To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
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Thanx heaps to Donald and Kevin for sending me the instructions for file permissions! peace has been restored :)
and we have now logged the valuable information for future use!
cheers
fatima
________________________________
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevin Feely
Sent: Thu 5/15/2008 11:30 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 SAC
Hi Fatima,
I think with the full trust you will be successful
regards
kev
Fatima Nazar wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> thanx for this document. We (the tecnician and I ) downloaded
> somethign very similar from the net and tried to give permissions (for
> reading and writing) but the file path was c:\ and none of us teachers
> and students can write on the c: drive. We have S/H/T drives where we
> do all our work.
>
> When Nathan (our technician) uses the programmer logged as a local
> administrator the programs work for him, but as soon as we try it on
> the network drive we get the permissions error.
>
> We didnt do the full trust bit as mentioned in your document and will
> try it tommorrow
>
> Thanx once again
>
> Fatima
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevin Feely
> *Sent:* Wed 14/05/2008 3:54 PM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 SAC
>
> Hi Fatima,
> It can be a network trust problem
> Can you write the text file to c:?
> If so the following mod could help
> This should not affect any other security issues as it only refers to
> the vb net programs
> regards
> Kevin
>
>
> Fatima Nazar wrote:
> > hi guys,
> >
> > I am new to SD and have been caught in the permissions error whenever
> > I or my students try to write in a txt file. We have spent two days
> > and cant seem to find any solution. I have run the same program at
> > home and it runs smoothly, can anyone help me? (We are using Vb.Net
> > 2005, express edition). I did go on the net and printed something that
> > has to be done in my .net framework - but my it technician is worried
> > about a whole bunch of security issues ! if you have come across this
> > error can you please send me some advice?
> >
> > Regards
> > Fatima
> > SFX College Beaconsfield
> >
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:36:49 +1000
From: "Owen, Jamie" <jowen at mackillop.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] VB Training / Inservice / PD
To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
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Hello all,
Out of curiosity, does anyone know of any VB training days? I'm learning VB for the first time, and just keeping ahead of the students. I have a Java background, and I think that's the only thing keeping me afloat at the moment.
Cheers,
Jamie Owen
MacKillop College
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:13:32 +1000
From: "Lisa Chadderton" <lisa.chadderton at gmail.com>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] VCE IT Study Design
Day: Units 2 & 4
To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
<itapps at edulists.com.au>, "Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
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Sorry everyone! The date for the second *VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4* is
actually *Friday 13 June*. Thanks for pointing the error out Glynis, Kent,
Geoff and Fatima (seems that everyone else is more attentive to detail than
I!)
Regards,
Lisa
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Bucca, Glynis <glynis.bucca at carey.com.au>
wrote:
> Is this really 15th February?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Glynis Bucca
>
> Dunshea Head of House
>
> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Lisa Chadderton
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 May 2008 2:27 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software
> Development Teachers' Mailing List; year11it at edulists.com.au
> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4
>
>
>
> Do you need to refresh your VCE IT Units 2 & 4 skills? Do you want to learn
> from experienced teachers who are operating in the classroom? New and
> experienced teachers of Year 11 and 12 VCE IT are invited to share in the
> *VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4* experience and gain the knowledge you need to
> implement the ITA, SD and Unit 2 IT study design with your students.
>
>
>
> *Date:* Friday 15th February
>
> *Venue:* The University of Melbourne, ICT Building, 111 Barry Street,
> Carlton (Malways 2B C9)
>
> *Time:* 8:30am - 3:15pm
>
>
>
> *Sessions:*
>
> 1) Overview: Relationship between the curriculum and the assessment (Paula
> Christophersen - VCAA)
>
> 2) Choose *two* of the following three sessions:
>
> - Year 11 Unit 2 - IT Pathways Outcomes 1 - 3
>
> - Software Development Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2
>
> - ITA Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2
>
>
>
> *Cost:*
>
> VITTA Individual Members - $195
>
> VITTA School Members - $230
>
> Non-VITTA Members - $260
>
>
>
> Register online at www.vitta.org.au/events or call the VITTA office on
> 9495 6836 for more information.
>
>
>
> *Please note.* This event is a sequal to the VCE IT Day: Units 1 & 3 held
> in February of this year. If you have already registered for both days,
> there is no need to re-register. You will be sent a reminder/
> confirmation email shortly. Those of you who did not attend the initial day
> in February are still welcome to attend the VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4 as it is
> not necessary to attend both and materials are independant.
>
>
>
> See you there
>
> Lisa
>
>
> --
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> Senior Project Officer
> VITTA
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