[Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 10
Fatima Nazar
fnazar at sfx.vic.edu.au
Thu May 8 13:17:06 EST 2008
hi jim
here is the link
http://www.swin.edu.au/ict/schools/ <https://exch-mail/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.swin.edu.au/ict/schools/> ,
We are going as well - so see you there!
Regards
Fatima
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of James GIBNEY
Sent: Thu 5/8/2008 11:20 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 10
HI all,
a couple of days ago I got an email from Swinburne with information about a day that are running for year 12 IT students. It had an attachment with certificates and directions. The students who went last year enjyed it. I have foolishly cleaned up my email and in doing so I have deleted it. Could someone on the list please foward it to me?
Thanking you in advance
Jim Gibney
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Harper, Glenda J
Sent: Thu 8/05/2008 11:00 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 10
ORB Education (www.orbeducation.com <http://www.orbeducation.com/> ) have some useful tasks, as well.
Glenda Harper
Sub-School Leader - Senior Years
Carwatha College P-12
harper.glenda.j at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:harper.glenda.j at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Ph: 9795 5848
Fax: 9790 1712
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
Sent: Thu 8/05/2008 8:19 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 10
There's the VB book by Graeme Summers (from memory) - I used the VB6
version, but .NET now exists. There are many tutorials online, but play
and practice still can't be beaten.
Cheers
Mark
Ogilvie, Ross A wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thank you for your assistance. In regard to "creating a
> relatively simple networkable (i.e. shared) database using VB with
> random access files and TYPE structures. To assuage the need to make it
> networkable, I told them about record locking "....I wouldn't know where to begin I this regard. Are there any exercises somewhere that I could use to get a handle on things?
>
> Kindest Regards
>
>
> Ross Ogilvie
> LSF ICT Leader
> Sunbury College
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> From: "andrew wenn" <andrew.wenn at gippslandgs.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] sacs
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> Hi Fatima,
>
> Thanks very much for this.
>
> Andrew.
>
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Fatima Nazar
> Sent: Tue 6/05/2008 3:23 PM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] sacs
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
> I have this outcome which the previous teacher used as a prac sac - if you want to compare it with your outcome. I am new to SD so cant help much
>
> Best of luck
> Fatima
>
>
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Townsley, Andrew A
> Sent: Tue 5/6/2008 3:12 PM
> To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] sacs
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am teaching SD and I am being audited .
> Now for unit4 outcome 1 sacI I want to do VB.net sac. I want to build upon their sac2 unit 3 sac with vb.net.
>
> To do a networked program what do I need to do?
>
> I want the students to read and write to a file 'common file on a network with customer details'. They will need 2 forms where 1 is input form and another they read in/search data.
> The students write to this file and read it and perform calculations eg for mechanic services.
> Will ths be OK?
>
>
> ...
>
> as well as
>
>
> The Task
>
>
>
> Apply the stages of software development to produce purpose-designed software that takes into account a networked information system objective and the needs of end-users.
>
>
>
> Task 1 (35 marks) - construct a solution using the software development life cycle
>
> Use a range of tools and techniques to produce purpose-designed software.
>
> All stages of software development are studied: analysis, design, development, testing, implementation and evaluation.
>
>
>
> Create a testing table that contains a number of tests, the expected outcome of each test and the actual results of the tests. The tests should cover validation, navigation and the solution itself.
>
>
>
> Task 2 (10 marks) - User Documentation:
>
>
>
> Write effective user documentation that caters for the needs of the intended end-users or audience
>
>
>
> Task 3 (5 marks) - Conflict analysis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Townsley
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> Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:28:10 +1000
> From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5
> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
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> Hi Ross. Remember that there is nothing in the U4O1 task description in
> the study design that mentions the need for a database - it only refers
> to a "networked information system". The key knowledge does, however,
> strongly lean towards data storage, data files, data access etc.
>
> With the database task last year, I took the hint in the key knowledge
> about "serial, sequential and random access" to get the kids to create a
> relatively simple networkable (i.e. shared) database using VB with
> random access files and TYPE structures. To assuage the need to make it
> networkable, I told them about record locking.
>
> It wasn't a huge project, but it was manageable by kids with little
> programming experience or skill.
>
> My task (attached) was based on the original by Adrian Janson who kindly
> made his outcomes available when I needed them the most. Thanks, Adrian!
>
> HTH
>
> Mark
>
> Ogilvie, Ross A wrote:
>> Software Module.
>>
>> Hello all. Like Andrew I am at a bit of a loss in regard to the Outcome Software Module. I'm currently getting the kids to do exercises using VB but am at a loss as too what standard is required. Also I am trying to connect an access database to a VB program (AJ's book, Ch 13) but am having a devil of a time as he doesn't use Vis Studio.Net 2005 . Could someone point me in the right direction?
>>
>> Kindest Regards
>>
>> Ross Ogilvie
>> LSF ICT Leader
>> Sunbury College
>> 30 Racecourse Rd, Sunbury 3429
>> Ph (W) 9744 1066
>> (H) 54272843
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>> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 10:41:59 +1000
>> From: "Maggie Iaquinto" <IAQUIM at bialik.vic.edu.au>
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: What is considered to be a module?
>> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
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>> Russell
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a look at sample Outcomes from Adrian Janson and Kevork Krozian.
>> They come with assessment sheets and there are items there which you
>> could borrow. Check the VITTA site and edulists for them.
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Maggie
>>
>>
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>> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Russell Quinn
>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 10:24 AM
>> To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: What is considered to be a module?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> I had the same problem last year.
>>
>> Sadly I also found the VCAA and other resources
>>
>> remarkably unhelpful. In the end I waited and used
>>
>> a sac that had been created by someone else.
>>
>> Basically it is one form with controls sufficient to
>>
>> allow the user to interact with data in a file.
>>
>>
>>
>> The SAC I eventually used was produced by
>>
>> the SD teacher at Belmont High (ta very much).
>>
>> I modified it slightly and changed the assessment
>>
>> criteria a bit but I include the original and my
>>
>> solution to my version.
>>
>>
>>
>> Btw, I found some were not very good due to
>>
>> the lack of time available for cutting code in
>>
>> semester 1 - a problem with the course.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Russell Quinn
>>
>>
>>
>> Mailto: qn at boxhillhs.vic.edu.au
>>
>>
>>
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>> 2. What is considered to be a module? (andrew wenn)
>> 3. Excel Assessment Mark Book (Robert Mercer)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:01:44 +1000
>> From: "Robert Hind" <robert at yinnar.com>
>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Take lots of photos!
>> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
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>> And give us a link to them all :-)
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fatima Nazar" <fnazar at sfx.vic.edu.au>
>> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
>> <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:49 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Keep well!
>>
>>
>>> Have a safe and fantastic trip - take lots of photos!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Fatima
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Adrian Janson
>>> Sent: Sat 5/3/2008 4:24 PM
>>> To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'; 'Year 11
>> Information
>>> Technology Teachers' Mailing List'; 'Year 7 - 10 Information
>> Technology
>>> Teachers' Mailing List'; 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
>> Mailing
>>> List'
>>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Keep well!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone (and apologies for the cross posts!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just wanted to wish you all the best for the rest of the term. I am
>> now
>>> officially on long service leave till the end of the term and my wife
>> and
>>> I are about to leave for OS! Hope all goes well - and hope to see you
>> all
>>> again in Term 3! I should set an autoreply on my email! (just
>> kidding!)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian Janson,
>>>
>>> VITTA President
>>>
>>> Director of ICT,
>>>
>>> Melbourne High School,
>>>
>>> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
>>>
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>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:41:56 +1000
>> From: "andrew wenn" <andrew.wenn at gippslandgs.vic.edu.au>
>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] What is considered to be a module?
>> To: <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> This is my first time ever teaching VCE Software Development.
>>
>> The IT study design asks that the software development 3 students
>> develop a software module as part of Outcome 2 but is strangely silent
>> on what a module is.
>>
>> The text Dawson and Janson is not helpful here either.
>>
>> If I use the example assessment task from the study design that involves
>> the quotes for painting. Then from my point of view I see this as being
>> broken into an number of modules, two of which may be a module to gather
>> customer details and another to do the actual costing. But as a
>> programming task these seem to be rather small. Am I on the wrong track
>> here?
>>
>> Any clarification/suggestions gratefully received.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Andrew Wenn
>> Head of IT
>> Gippsland Grammar
>> Sale, Victoria
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>> Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 16:38:59 +1000
>> From: "Robert Mercer" <rmercer at groupwise.swin.edu.au>
>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Excel Assessment Mark Book
>> To: <itapps at edulists.com.au>, <sofdev at edulists.com.au>,
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>> Hello Everyone
>> Here is an Excel workbook I made a little while ago to help me mark
>> SACs. Basically it makes new assessment sheets based on template and
>> keeps track of all the students marks from those sheets on a summary
>> sheet and makes it a bit easier to navigate to different student's
>> assessment sheets too. Anyhow have a play, it saved me a bit of time
>> and effort, hopefully someone else finds it useful too. I included a
>> little instruction sheet too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rob Mercer
>> ICT Outreach - Project Officer
>> Faculty of Information & Communication Technologies
>> Swinburne University of Technology
>> PO Box 218
>> Hawthorn VIC 3122 Australia
>>
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>>
>> And don't forget about Swingame:
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