[Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5
Mark Kelly
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Wed May 7 08:28:10 EST 2008
Hi Ross. Remember that there is nothing in the U4O1 task description in
the study design that mentions the need for a database - it only refers
to a "networked information system". The key knowledge does, however,
strongly lean towards data storage, data files, data access etc.
With the database task last year, I took the hint in the key knowledge
about "serial, sequential and random access" to get the kids to create a
relatively simple networkable (i.e. shared) database using VB with
random access files and TYPE structures. To assuage the need to make it
networkable, I told them about record locking.
It wasn't a huge project, but it was manageable by kids with little
programming experience or skill.
My task (attached) was based on the original by Adrian Janson who kindly
made his outcomes available when I needed them the most. Thanks, Adrian!
HTH
Mark
Ogilvie, Ross A wrote:
> Software Module.
>
> Hello all. Like Andrew I am at a bit of a loss in regard to the Outcome Software Module. I'm currently getting the kids to do exercises using VB but am at a loss as too what standard is required. Also I am trying to connect an access database to a VB program (AJ's book, Ch 13) but am having a devil of a time as he doesn't use Vis Studio.Net 2005 . Could someone point me in the right direction?
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> From: "Maggie Iaquinto" <IAQUIM at bialik.vic.edu.au>
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> Russell
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> Have a look at sample Outcomes from Adrian Janson and Kevork Krozian.
> They come with assessment sheets and there are items there which you
> could borrow. Check the VITTA site and edulists for them.
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> HTH
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> Maggie
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> Hi Andrew,
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> I had the same problem last year.
>
> Sadly I also found the VCAA and other resources
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> remarkably unhelpful. In the end I waited and used
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> a sac that had been created by someone else.
>
> Basically it is one form with controls sufficient to
>
> allow the user to interact with data in a file.
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>
>
> The SAC I eventually used was produced by
>
> the SD teacher at Belmont High (ta very much).
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> I modified it slightly and changed the assessment
>
> criteria a bit but I include the original and my
>
> solution to my version.
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>
>
> Btw, I found some were not very good due to
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> the lack of time available for cutting code in
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> semester 1 - a problem with the course.
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>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
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> Russell Quinn
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> Mailto: qn at boxhillhs.vic.edu.au
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>> Have a safe and fantastic trip - take lots of photos!
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>> Hi everyone (and apologies for the cross posts!)
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>> I just wanted to wish you all the best for the rest of the term. I am
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> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:41:56 +1000
> From: "andrew wenn" <andrew.wenn at gippslandgs.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] What is considered to be a module?
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> Hi,
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> This is my first time ever teaching VCE Software Development.
>
> The IT study design asks that the software development 3 students
> develop a software module as part of Outcome 2 but is strangely silent
> on what a module is.
>
> The text Dawson and Janson is not helpful here either.
>
> If I use the example assessment task from the study design that involves
> the quotes for painting. Then from my point of view I see this as being
> broken into an number of modules, two of which may be a module to gather
> customer details and another to do the actual costing. But as a
> programming task these seem to be rather small. Am I on the wrong track
> here?
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> Any clarification/suggestions gratefully received.
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> From: "Robert Mercer" <rmercer at groupwise.swin.edu.au>
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Excel Assessment Mark Book
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> Hello Everyone
> Here is an Excel workbook I made a little while ago to help me mark
> SACs. Basically it makes new assessment sheets based on template and
> keeps track of all the students marks from those sheets on a summary
> sheet and makes it a bit easier to navigate to different student's
> assessment sheets too. Anyhow have a play, it saved me a bit of time
> and effort, hopefully someone else finds it useful too. I included a
> little instruction sheet too.
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> Cheers,
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> Rob Mercer
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> Faculty of Information & Communication Technologies
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