[Year 12 SofDev] Confirmati0n:

Davies, Brett bdavies at woodleigh.vic.edu.au
Fri Feb 8 20:34:35 EST 2008


geez that  Mark bloke...hes nuts!
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly [kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:47 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1

Ah!  I did check the VITTA site but I had not sent it there.  I didn't
think of your edulists site.  D'oh!  I eventually found a copy on our
network.

Thank Dog for redundant backups - I usually have 5 copies of everything
in different places  :-)

Cheers
Mark

Kevork Krozian wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
>  Your SAC 31 sits proudly in the repository of SACs and assessment
> tasks at www.edulists.com.au, so
> you can download it from there if you have lost it !!!
>
> Take Care
> Kevork
>
>
>>>> Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> 8/02/2008 2:22 pm >>>
> Here is my SD U3O2 which I used last year - at least one is based on
> the
> good works of Adrian, so kudos to him.
>
> My SD tasks underwent VCAA auditing so they have the Housekeeping Seal
>
> of Approval.
>
> I will send my SD U3O1 - as soon as I can find it.  Somehow, I have
> lost
> every copy (electronic and printed!).  I believe I have a rogue copy at
>
> home so I may send it along later.  (Embarrassing!)
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
>
> andrew barry wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I dont have a problem with the solution as i understand it. Some of
> my
>> guys have just started VB.net and I dont believe the can reproduce
> that
>> level of response in 10-13 weeks. They could do the SAC as it is
>> written  by the time they do the sac but not the solution to that
> level
>> of detail.
>>
>> Also I cant view the .VSD file as i cant download MS visio viewer as
> the
>> download is corrupt 2003,2007 ver.
>> Has anyone got the DFD diagram for this?
>>
>>
>> Are there any other SACs around  as i like to have a choice or do i
> just
>> modify what i have?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/8/08, *Adrian Janson* <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> <mailto:janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
>>
>>     Andrew,
>>
>>
>>
>>     This really highlights a difficulty for me in providing solutions
> to
>>     SACs.
>>
>>
>>
>>     I do like to post my SACs to the edulists and each year I
> receive
>>     requests for solutions.  Ultimately, 'solutions' are going to be
>>     based on what level of expectation you place on the students in
> your
>>     class.  The important thing is that you grade each SAC in a
> uniform
>>     way and you (and your class) have a clear understanding of what
> is
>>     expected.
>>
>>
>>
>>     The SAC solution which you are referring to is essentially an
>>     amalgam of a number of high level responses received from
> students
>>     in my class.  If you gave this SAC to your class * would you
> be
>>     expecting them to produce an XML file solution in order to
> achieve
>>     full marks?  Absolutely not.  You should use whatever software
> you
>>     have selected and require students to reproduce the skills which
> you
>>     are teaching them.
>>
>>
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Adrian
>>
>>
>>
>>     *Adrian Janson, *
>>
>>     *VITTA President*
>>
>>     *Director of ICT, *
>>
>>     Melbourne High School,
>>
>>     Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
>>
>>     Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
>>
>>     Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
>>
>>     E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>     <mailto:janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
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>>     *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
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>>     [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>     <mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *andrew
> barry
>>     *Sent:* Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM
>>     *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
>>
>>
>>
>>     The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the
> description
>>     on the sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text
> file
>>     and a detailed GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for
>
>>     top marks as it seems overkill?
>>
>>     On 2/8/08, *Adrian Janson* <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>     <mailto:janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Andrew,
>>
>>
>>
>>     The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:
>>
>>
> http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC
>
>>
> <http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC>
>>
>>
>>     They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section.
> If
>>     you cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member *
> so
>>     then I would encourage you to sign up as soon as possible!  The
>>     benefits of being a member are numerous * the most obvious one
> being
>>     that you will have access to a large number of resources written
> by
>>     VITTA members stored in the resource section.
>>
>>
>>
>>     All the best!
>>
>>
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Adrian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>>     I am still after SAC1 and 2 for software development. I emailed
>>     VITTA but I wonder what people here are using. I have last years
>>     SAC1 for network design but no answer sheet.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Any help is appreciated.
>>
>>
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