[Year 12 SofDev] RE: SD & Networking

[Don Morelli Optus]

I agree with Mark. In particular database programming can be as exciting as
watching the grass grow and kids are interested in creating more interesting
programs-not all will be backend web developers or similar.
Cheers 
Don

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On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 12:00 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: SD & Networking

It would be nice to put all of those things in a course, but there's 
barely time to get beyond the basics for many kids.  For the whole year, 
we only get about 100 hours of class time.

IMO, the subject is called Software Development and it should focus on 
programming. Related or specialised topics such as database programming 
and networking need to take their place in the queue.

Russell Quinn wrote:
> In my last email I forgot to include the data model.
> Currently SD is way too process orientated.
> We need more time for the data model and data design -
> entity relation diagrams leading on to the data dictionary.
> More time spent on relational matters - primary key,
> foreign keys.  Perhaps normal forms etc.  Include SQL
> as a formal part of the course. These matters are much
> more relevant to software development
> that any networking.
>  
> Russell Quinn
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> Mailto: qn at boxhillhs.vic.edu.au <mailto:qn at boxhillhs.vic.edu.au>
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> I dont believe SD is about teaching  them how to just program though ? 
> Dont know about linked lists either but maybe collections i better.
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