[Year 12 SofDev] Re: Re: Industry practice
Adrian Janson
janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
Sat Apr 26 15:35:38 EST 2008
Hi everyone,
>you are assuming of course that a study which deals only with those things
relating directly to programming will attract students and bring them back
in droves.
And this is - I believe - a big assumption!
Let us say that there are a core of IT students at the moment who are in
Year 10 and preparing to undertake VCE next year. What percentage of these
student do you think look at the course outline and decide "hmmm. looks like
there is not enough programming. I won't be taking that course - even though
it is what I am interested in..!"
Do you think this number is 5%? 10%, 50%! More?
In my experience - the students that are keen on IT - and the ones that I
are undertaking my Year 10 programming elective - are carrying on to enrol
in SD3/4 - regardless of the course content. Now I don't mean to imply that
the course content is not important - however, I think that the students
that we are wanting to attract are the ones that are not necessarily into
programming! They are the ones that have not considered undertaking an IT
career.
Regards,
Adrian
BTW: My off-list email to you Andrew was in regards to your lack of
identification.
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Timmer-Arends
Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2008 3:08 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Re: Re: Industry practice
Hello Andrew
you are assuming of course that a study which deals only with those things
relating directly to programming will attract students and bring them back
in droves.
Regards
Robert T-A
Brighton SC
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From: andrew barry <mailto:jagguy999 at gmail.com>
To: Year 12 <mailto:sofdev at edulists.com.au> Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Re: Re: Industry practice
Hi,
No I havent received a off-topic email.
I think i dont' want an debate on why we should keep the status quo with IT.
I thought the idea was to encourage students to undertake further IT
courses beyond of yr12, and provide with them skills so they feel they can
do it?
With declining numbers in IT courses everywhere I believe we need to argue
for change , as I have said before. If we don't initiate change then someone
will do it for us, as business adopt a school policy has threatened. I want
a programming subject to teach and another that deals with hands on with
applications eg webpages,VBA etc. Spread the other issues as components of
unit 1 and 2.
If we don't inspire kids in VCE then they dont go onto IT courses, and this
seems to be our current issue(except my classes where I have re jigged
things :).
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