[Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 38, Issue 10
Ogilvie, Ross A
ogilvie.ross.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
Fri Apr 11 13:06:38 EST 2008
Dear All,
I'm proposing to do something similar to Andrew. A question I have regarding programming with Visual Basic is what sort of standard is required. For example, would most of the examples in Graeme Summers suffice?
I'm just a bit wary of ovderdoing/underdoing it.
Regards
Ross Ogilvie
LSF ICT Leader
Sunbury College
30 Racecourse Rd, Sunbury 3429
Ph (W) 9744 1066
(H) 54272843
Bookmarks: http://del.icio.us/Ross1956
Wiki: http://ross1956.wikispaces.com/
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1. Re: My U3O1 SAC - 2008 (andrew barry)
2. Submissions to the Australia 2020 Summit on Open Source
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3. RE: My U3O1 SAC - 2008 (Claudia Graham)
4. Re: My U3O1 SAC - 2008 (Kevork Krozian)
5. Re: My U3O1 SAC - 2008 (andrew barry)
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:17:28 +1000
From: "andrew barry" <jagguy999 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] My U3O1 SAC - 2008
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Hi,
How are people mixing theory with computer work?
I am teaching VB.net and alss covering quickly the theory in the SD book.
I will concentrate on their VB.net learning for SACs and term3 will
concentrate on exam style questions from checkpoints book. I think this is
where you need to work at their theory, when it is an exam style question
organized in topics.
I just think it is a waste of time covering theory in great depth now but my
class takes notes and does some questions.
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:08:29 GMT
From: stephen at melbpc.org.au
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Submissions to the Australia 2020 Summit on
Open Source
To: itapps at edulists.com.au, sofdev at edulists.com.au
Cc: oz-teachers at rite.ed.qut.edu.au, Tom.Worthington at tomw.net.au
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From: Tom Worthington <Tom.Worthington at tomw.net.au>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:30:39 +1000
Subject: Submissions to the Australia 2020 Summit on Open Source
A submission to the Australia 2020 Summit, based on the material
contributed by the Open Source Summit participants, has been made:
<http://tomw.net.au/moodle/mod/resource/view.php?id=199>.
Several of the participants also made individual submissions and I have
added these to the Open 2020 web site:
<http://tomw.net.au/moodle/course/view.php?id=9>.
Also, submissions can still be made to the Review of the National
Innovation System, with a deadline of 30 April 2008
<http://www.tomw.net.au/blog/2008/04/review-of-national-innovation-
system.html>.
<http://www.okaneassociates.com.au/about_us.html>
Professor Mary O'Kane is attending both the national 2020 summit and
involved with the Review of the National Innovation System, and invited
submissions on open source and open access:
http://tomw.net.au/moodle/mod/resource/view.php?id=195>.
Tom Worthington FACS HLM tom.worthington at tomw.net.au Ph: 0419 496150
PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617 http://www.tomw.net.au/
Adjunct Senior Lecturer, ANU
--
Cheers, Tom
Stephen Loosley
Victoria, Australia
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:08:10 +1000
From: "Claudia Graham" <claudia.graham at overnewton.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] My U3O1 SAC - 2008
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Hi Andrew,
Personally I do the opposite, I find Semester 1 very heavy on with
theory. We do 3-4 sessions out of 9 (a fortnight) in programming,
sometime less, the rest is theory as Outcome 1 requires so much
knowledge. Outcome 2 on the other hand students can handle quite well as
they all did design, testing, validation etc in previous years.
I do revision tests quite regularly and do an end of semester test to
cover the material for Unit 3.
I must admit I do push the line that the exam is 50% of the course so we
will be doing 50% of our work on it throughout the year. My students
have already had a go at last years exams, and from the beginning of
June will do an exam paper a week.
Just my approach not necessarily better.
Claudia
*********************************************************************
Claudia Graham
VCE Coordinator
Assistant to the Head of Staff (Keilor Campus)
9334 0049 (direct)
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[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of andrew barry
Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2008 8:17 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] My U3O1 SAC - 2008
Hi,
How are people mixing theory with computer work?
I am teaching VB.net and alss covering quickly the theory in the SD
book.
I will concentrate on their VB.net learning for SACs and term3 will
concentrate on exam style questions from checkpoints book. I think this
is where you need to work at their theory, when it is an exam style
question organized in topics.
I just think it is a waste of time covering theory in great depth now
but my class takes notes and does some questions.
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:31:33 +1000
From: "Kevork Krozian" <Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] My U3O1 SAC - 2008
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Hi Andrew,
It would be interesting to know where you teach.
As with all emails to Edulists contributors are encouraged via the netiquette guidelines to identify themselves with a signature.
It would also be nice to place the name with the school.
Kind regards
Kevork Krozian
IT Manager , Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
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>>> "andrew barry" <jagguy999 at gmail.com> 10/04/2008 8:17 pm >>>
Hi,
How are people mixing theory with computer work?
I am teaching VB.net and alss covering quickly the theory in the SD book.
I will concentrate on their VB.net learning for SACs and term3 will
concentrate on exam style questions from checkpoints book. I think this is
where you need to work at their theory, when it is an exam style question
organized in topics.
I just think it is a waste of time covering theory in great depth now but my
class takes notes and does some questions.
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:04:39 +1000
From: "andrew barry" <jagguy999 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] My U3O1 SAC - 2008
To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
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Hi,
Yes I cover the theory initially but i dont spend all lesson on it. The exam
is 50% so like you the best way to do an exam is to do exam questions come
Term3.
Outcome 1 i have found doesn't require nearly as much work as outcome 2?
Most my class doesn't know VB.net but the network design doesn't take long
to teach as many questions on it are comprehension. Also the sac after that
is practical.
On 4/11/08, Claudia Graham <claudia.graham at overnewton.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
>
>
> Personally I do the opposite, I find Semester 1 very heavy on with theory.
> We do 3-4 sessions out of 9 (a fortnight) in programming, sometime less, the
> rest is theory as Outcome 1 requires so much knowledge. Outcome 2 on the
> other hand students can handle quite well as they all did design, testing,
> validation etc in previous years.
>
>
>
> I do revision tests quite regularly and do an end of semester test to
> cover the material for Unit 3.
>
>
>
> I must admit I do push the line that the exam is 50% of the course so we
> will be doing 50% of our work on it throughout the year. My students have
> already had a go at last years exams, and from the beginning of June will do
> an exam paper a week.
>
>
>
> Just my approach not necessarily better.
>
> Claudia
>
>
>
>
>
> *********************************************************************
>
> Claudia Graham
>
> VCE Coordinator
>
> Assistant to the Head of Staff (Keilor Campus)
>
> 9334 0049 (direct)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *andrew barry
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 April 2008 8:17 PM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] My U3O1 SAC - 2008
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> How are people mixing theory with computer work?
> I am teaching VB.net and alss covering quickly the theory in the SD book.
>
> I will concentrate on their VB.net learning for SACs and term3 will
> concentrate on exam style questions from checkpoints book. I think this is
> where you need to work at their theory, when it is an exam style question
> organized in topics.
>
> I just think it is a waste of time covering theory in great depth now but
> my class takes notes and does some questions.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.edulists.com.au <http://www.edulists.com.au/> IT Software Development Mailing List kindly
> supported by
> http://www.vitta.org.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html<http://www.vitta.org.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html%20%20>- Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
> http://www.vitta.org.au <http://www.vitta.org.au/> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers
> Association Inc
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.edulists.com.au <http://www.edulists.com.au/> IT Software Development Mailing List kindly
> supported by
> http://www.vitta.org.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html -
> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
> http://www.vitta.org.au <http://www.vitta.org.au/> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers
> Association Inc
>
> *Overnewton Anglican Community College*
> A school for the whole family celebrating 21 years of quality education in
> the North West of Melbourne.
>
> Winner of the 2007 Australian Chamber of Commerce and Business Council of
> Australia National Work and Family Award for a Medium-sized Business.
>
> EOWA Australia's Leading Organisation for the Advancement of Women (less
> than 500 employees) in 2005
>
> An EOWA Employer of Choice since 2002.
>
> http://www.overnewton.vic.edu.au/
> Keilor Campus
> 2-30 Overnewton Road
> Keilor, Victoria, 3036
> Tel: 03 9334 0000
> Fax: 03 9336 1835
> Taylors Lakes Campus
> 39 - 57 Robertsons Road
> Taylors Lakes, Victoria, 3038
> Tel: 03 9334 0000
> Fax: 03 9390 5144
>
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