[Year 12 SofDev] Pondering SD U3O2

Thu Feb 15 12:53:27 EST 2007

Hi Kevork,

No, for Unit 4, I  am thinking of a business database application. Say VB.Ne=
t linked to an Access or SQLServer database. For coding, students can use si=
mple database objects, or for daring, I could show them how to write everyth=
ing in code, including the connection, returning data in recordsets, and sql=
 for queries.

For unit 3, it would be nice to create something that could be run on a mobi=
le. I have not done that myself but it interests me. I am due to renew my mo=
bile phone contract and get a new mobile, so I will look into getting one th=
at will allow me to run a VB.Net application, just so I can demonstrate (eve=
n only once) that the module has a practical purpose.

Harry 

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Thu 2/15/2007 11:37 AM
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: RE: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Pondering SD U3O2

Hi Harry,

But the implementation and evaluation phases are in Unit 4 which says nothin=
g about a mobile device.
Are you intending to use a mobile device for the second task as well ?

Kevork

>>> dgdawson at mgs.vic.edu.au 02/15/07 10:57am >>>
Yep
http://www.code-magazine.com/Article.aspx?quickid=3D0609051

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Schlanger, Harry P
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Pondering SD U3O2

...so the DopoD allows you to run a VB.Net application for the
implementation/evaluation phases?

Harry Schlanger

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of David Dawson
Sent: Thu 2/15/2007 9:29 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Pondering SD U3O2

Yes, well researched, Kevork, another you might like from 3 is the Sony
Ericsson W950i.
I think the Dopod 838 Pro also has this HTML capacity.
But the costs per month are prohibitive unless you cough up the $1000 to
buy one outright :-(
Curiously the Dopod uses a Windows compatible OS but the A1000 uses a
Symbian OS - so I guess the one I have would not run VB.Net apps locally
- although I have a Java API that would develop apps on it - and one
exists also for C++. The mobile device obviously pre-determines what
language you write your apps in - unless they run off a server eg: PHP
;-)
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 3:20 PM
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: RE: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Pondering SD U3O2

Hi David,

   Very impressive !!! Looking at the blurb on the Motorola A1000 phone
at http://www.motorola.com/mot/doc/1/1053_MotDoc.pdf , it boasts a full
html browser whilst many other mobile devices ( take an entry level
Telstra 850 - rebadged zte f850 -  offered right now with a Telstra plan
running the Next G network ) run wml .  This means forms will load, but
won't submit if written in html but will do so in wml with or without
PHP.

Best Wishes
Kevork

>>> dgdawson at mgs.vic.edu.au 02/14/07 11:41am >>>

My Motorola A1000 mobile phone runs HTML and allows point and click on
buttons etc.. :-) hence PHP apps run perfectly - I can even do my
absentees on it. I know of at least 10 other phones now available that
do the same.
Surely no one will be disadvantaged if their apps actually run? After
all it says "coding and debugging" in the assessment doc. But the
"ethical dilemma" has me wondering. How would a calculator or contacts
list match this unless they design an interface that is very different
to what they have seen before, or perhaps login to avoid privacy issues?
David D

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