[Year 12 SofDev] Subject scaling???? Anyone know how SDandITAwere treated this year?

Adam Barbary home at adambarbary.com
Fri Dec 21 08:26:26 EST 2007


Do you know anyone who can program in Latin?
;)

Adam Barbary
Viewbank College


On 21/12/2007, at 7:15 AM, Andrew Grimshaw wrote:

> u can get a copy of the scaling report on the VTAC site go to site  
> and search for "scaling report"
>
> when i downloaded it on tues they hadnt upgraded the link - the 2006  
> link produced the 2007 report!
>
> makes quite interesting reading i have suggested we start teaching  
> latin - a 30 in that subject gets scaled to a 46!
>
> from memory ita was scaled down about 5 pts and sd about 4 pts
>
> math method was up about 7, specialist 10, physics 3, chem 2
>
> (can u tell i teach maths/science as well)
>
> -andrew grimshaw
> colac college
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karl Blake
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Subject scaling???? Anyone know how  
> SDandITAwere treated this year?
>
> Hi Robert, I was aware of the logic behind scaling but my thoughts  
> are that the degree of difficulty of the exam reflects the  
> anticipated cohort sitting for the paper.  If that's the case then I  
> expect that the students who selected IT will have a subject mean  
> that still causes the marks to be scaled down.  Unfortunately it  
> becomes a bit of a spiral, brighter students shy away from subjects  
> that are scaled down.
>
> Oh well, maybe now that the first year of a new subject is over we  
> may attract more students from the top end.
>
> Karl Blake
> Distance Education Centre Victoria
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Hind
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Subject scaling???? Anyone know how SD  
> andITAwere treated this year?
>
> No help to you on details for this year.
>
> Grades given for exams do not depend on the "easiness" of the exams.  
> My understanding is that the top ?% of students get an A+, the next ? 
> % get an A, etc down to UG which is obtained by a very small  
> percentage of students. This is the same for all subjects. The  
> median student in every subject gets about a bottom B grade. Initial  
> study scores are based on these grades. Have a look at exam marks  
> and grades on the VCAA website.
>
> Scaling is a computerised exercise to try to make study scores  
> equivalent between subjects. It is based on cross subject  
> comparisons for all students. So a student doing Specialist Maths is  
> scaled up because the students doing Specialist are essentially good  
> and doing better than average across the board - else why do  
> Specialist rather than Further Maths?
>
> If ITA gets scaled down it will not be because of the exam itself  
> but rather because the ITA students are generally below average  
> across the board.
>
> I may be wrong :-( but this is my understanding
>
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karl Blake
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List ; IT APPS IT  
> Apps ; Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:11 PM
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Subject scaling???? Anyone know how SD and  
> ITAwere treated this year?
>
> Hi All, does anyone know which way the subject scaling was applied  
> to SD and ITA this year?  I had hoped that the new Study Design  
> would address the scaling down issue that was a problem with  
> Information Systems and IP&M but the exams seemed a little on the  
> easy side so I’m expecting the same treatment this year.
>
> Regards,
>
> Karl Blake
>
> Distance Education Centre Victoria
> 315 Clarendon Street Thornbury 3071
> kblake at distance.vic.edu.ay
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