[offtopic] Using School Supplied laptos at home

Wed May 28 09:38:14 EST 2008

Cameron, some have both some don't.
I personally have a few at home but other staff have only the laptop.
Andrew

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[mailto:offtopic-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Cameron Bell
Sent: Wednesday, 28 May 2008 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [offtopic] Using School Supplied laptos at home

Andrew,
Would their school laptops be their primary computer or do many have
desktops at home?
Cheers
Cameron

WEIR Andrew wrote:
> Ros
> I always love reading your emails.
> However in this case even having with the knowledge that there history

> will be seen, staff have done the wrong things. At the school staff 
> "Do Not Pay For There Laptops" they are provided by the school. The 
> school covers the lease on the laptop. So staff can't install tools. 
> However as for the world of open source, well personally myself and 
> the head tech do a good job encouraging staff to use it. Especially 
> via the use of Pocket APPS. However we still need to Monitor, Log or 
> control (choose the word you like the best) what staff are doing. It 
> is the same in all organisations.
>
> As I also said this is issue One of a few, the training and education 
> of staff will be next on the agenda. But it's not the technicians I 
> need to answer to it's admin.
>
> Also it's not every teacher that will do the wrong thing, it's the One

> teacher that does, or what I tend to call "The Just-in Factor"
>  
>
> Andrew
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:offtopic-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Meadows, Roslyn

> M
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 1:52 PM
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> Subject: RE: [offtopic] Using School Supplied laptos at home
>
> DEECD provide (almost) all govt school teachers with a notebook 
> (although we have a small "payment" deducted from our salary each 
> fortnight - mine is $8).
> There have never been any restrictions on the use of these notebooks 
> at home or anywhere else. I can use mine at conferences, in cafes and 
> at home to connect wirelessly to the internet. We also have total 
> control over what we install, and usually the first thing I do is 
> reformat mine to get rid of all the DEECD junk installed on it, and 
> set it up the way I want it.
>
> I think education (of the teachers) here is an issue, perhaps if they 
> knew that their browsing history could be viewed by others who use 
> their computer maybe they would be more careful. Obviously there are 
> still people who don't realize that everything that is done in a 
> browser stays there until it is deleted. A brief demonstration at a 
> staff meeting of what can be revealed about staff surfing habits in 
> the history of IE or firefox would scare most into doing the right 
> thing! Of course you would have to set up a computer so that the 
> results were "shocking" (but not too "adult" for a staff meeting!)
>
> Maybe some simple software which deletes browsing history, cookies, 
> searches etc such as Advanced Windows Care or CC Cleaner should be 
> installed? Staff should be shown how to use it, and told to use it 
> after each browsing session outside of the school. Even showing them 
> how to use the IE or Firefox "delete browsing history" or "clear
private data"
> would help.
>
> Personally I don't see why staff cannot install software - surely 
> staff should be able to trial some of the amazing open source software

> or other free software which is available which may help their 
> teaching and learning (eg FreeMind, OpenProj, Scratch etc)
>
> Hope this helps
> Cheers
> Ros
>
> Roslyn Meadows
> Head of ICT Implementation
> Head of Assessment and Reporting
> Bentleigh Secondary College
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:offtopic-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of WEIR Andrew
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 1:01 PM
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>
> Alan,
> Other then anti virus tools we have no other tools on the local 
> machine's.
> There are some security policies set so that staff can't install 
> programs.
> However it not the viruses that are the issue, it's the content, staff

> downloading pictures (of an adult nature) and just generally 
> inappropriate content for a Work based machine.
> Andrew
>
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> [mailto:offtopic-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Alan Oh
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:48 PM
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>
> What are the main concerns with home connection? Would the security 
> software already installed on the laptop be able to handle "nasties"
> from the internet?
>
>
> Regards
>  
> Alan Oh
> Waverley Christian College
> Tel: (613) 9871-8600 ext 605
> www: www.wcc.vic.edu.au
> email: oh.a at wcc.vic.edu.au
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:offtopic-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of WEIR Andrew
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:34 PM
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>
> Dear all,
> I am after some recommendations or opinions on solving a few issues.
> Currently the school provides all its staff with laptop computers for 
> use at school and limited use at home.
> However staff are not meant to connect to there home ISP's or browse 
> the internet at home.
>
> We are currently trying to solve the issues so that staff can use them

> at home, but we need to be able to monitor/log what staff are 
> downloading onto these computers.
>
> Does anyone know of or have an ideas for how this could be done. 
>
> So far my thoughts run to installing some sort of "Net Nanny" style 
> program, and using the Sina Black list.
>
> This is the first of three issues that we are facing preventing staff 
> using the computers at home. However this is kind of the most 
> important one.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Weir
>
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