[Moodle] Open Source Student Behaviour Tracking Software?

Fri Mar 31 18:35:54 EST 2006

Stephen, spot on with your observation that note that teachers would
be reluctant to jump through hurdles to fill in oodles of fields and
forms. I sometimes think that the behavioural reports that staff fill
in after incidents has as much to do with venting teacher feelings as
it has to providing information.

My past experience with an online behavioural system was that the
Assistant Principal who helped designed the database forms, ended up
being the only one that used the system. Other staff preferred to
scribble notes on bits of paper or use the old carbonated forms.
Sadly, the only online databases that worked were the ones that I used
and maintained.

I had a similar experience with the first computer maintenance job
tracking system that designed several years ago. Whilst it was a
relational popup, pulldown, tickbox marvel, and despite my directions
.. nobody used it. After talking things through with the technicians,
we ended up with a simple, flat database (autonumber, usercode, date
and memo fields) that upon reflection has more in common with a
weblog. Some simple reports can list work, users or search/edit
particular records. Oddly enough, the newer online PD database that I
built in 2003 only had the fields staffcode / year / datetext / memo
but it is being used with no intervention from me and happily
generates reports of all the PD attended by staff for the year.

Thinking back now, I am wondering if this is all that we ever needed
for a student behaviour tracking system. A kind of online weblog with
a studentcode field and a few fields for staff to fill in with
edit/search/reporting functions.

Regards Roland

On 31/03/06, Stephen Digby <digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> Access works fine with multiple simultaneous users by default. The only problem is the security levels needed to get some level of
> privacy for SWC info and YLC info.
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> To implement this the MS way you need to have a security key on each station used to access the database with info about the users
> that will access it etc.
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> To avoid the need to learn about (as well as setup and maintain) such a system, we used what we knew, which was Vis Basic and
> access.
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> It works fine here for 60-70 simultaneous users.  Main problem still remains that teachers don't feel they have the time to fill it
> in. Next thing I will try is a dedicated station running nothing else to encourage teacher data entry.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Keith Richardson
> Sent: Friday, 31 March 2006 3:32 PM
> To: The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Moodle] Open Source Student Behaviour Tracking Software?
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> Stephen.
> I can easily write the Access database (it is already done) but my understanding was that it would not work with multiple
> simultaneous users over a network. How dem do dat, Sir?
> Cheers, Keith
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> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:13:00 +1100, "Stephen Digby"
> <digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au> said:
> > Not moodle, just plain old Access.
> > Just what I use.
> >
> > Would like something online but they are all so tediously slow with
> > student selection (drop down of 1200 students !!!) & data entry for
> > users that they just don't get used !!!
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> > ======================================================================
> > ================ Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
> > digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
> > Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55
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> > Fx: 9555 8617
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> > For every person who wants to teach there are approximately thirty
> > people who don't want to learn--much.  W. C. Sellar and R. J.
> > Yeatman, And Now All This (1932) introduction
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [mailto:moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Keith Richardson
> > Sent: Friday, 31 March 2006 12:24 PM
> > To: List Moodle
> > Subject: [Moodle] Open Source Student Behaviour Tracking Software?
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> > Hello All.
> > We are searching for some open source software that we can adapt to
> > track student behaviours.
> > Although I can write one on Access, I want one that is more suited to
> > multiple users, set up on a server.
> > Any suggestions?
> > Thank you, Keith
> > Keith Richardson
> > Leibler Yavneh College
> > Elsternwick Ph (03)9528 4911
> > keithcr at fastmail.fm
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