[Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 128, Issue 19

Poke, Michael C poke.michael.c at edumail.vic.gov.au
Fri Oct 23 16:12:17 AEDT 2015 

It would seem I’ve learned something new today (re edulist attachments)!

Cheers,
Michael Poke


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> From: Robert Hallworth <hallworth.r at wcc.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 128, Issue 16
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> I receive Attachments okay and this one seems to have sent. I have received it back from the list??
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Poke, Michael C
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> Hi Robert Hallworth,
> Could you please post your Normalisation exercise to https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/104249627663280730813. The edulist email doesn't support attachments, it would seem.
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> Cheers,
> Michael Poke
> Manor Lakes P-12 College
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>  1. Re: 2015 DLTV Conference presentations (Roland Gesthuizen)
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> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 12:05:54 +1100
> From: Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com<mailto:rgesthuizen at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2015 DLTV Conference presentations
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> They are a great team at the DLTV office and whilst they don?t spam our lists with posts, they do read, reflect and respond to feedback. Often as easy as an email or follow up phone call. Glad you could work it out with them Carlo.
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> Regards Roland
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> On 23 Oct 2015, at 11:52 AM, Ripoli, Carlo C <ripoli.carlo.c at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:ripoli.carlo.c at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
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> Hi Roland
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> Yes, Fay from DLTV contacted me and she sent the presentations of the sessions I was interested in.
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> Thank you
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> Carlo
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au> [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen [rgesthuizen at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 6:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2015 DLTV Conference presentations
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> If there is something particular you are looking for to help plan for 2016, I can imagine that you can directly contact the office for details.
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> Please don?t quote me but I have heard of work to create a dedicated domain to host the DIgiCon stuff. Its a good idea and we may hear something shortly about this. Keep an eye out on the DLTV eNews items or Twitter alerts.
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> Regards Roland
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> On 16 Oct 2015, at 7:14 AM, Ripoli, Carlo C <ripoli.carlo.c at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:ripoli.carlo.c at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
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> Hi All
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> At the DLTV conference this year it was mentioned that the presentations for the sessions would be made available to download. Was this material going to be placed on the DLTV website or elsewhere? I had a quick look at the website but cannot find it.
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> Does anyone know where this can be found?
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> Thank you
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> Carlo Ripoli
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> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 04:24:58 +0000
> From: Robert Hallworth <hallworth.r at wcc.vic.edu.au<mailto:hallworth.r at wcc.vic.edu.au>>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Normalisation practical exercises for
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> Here is one I created with solution
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Watson, Donald R
> Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:52 PM
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> Supplementary materials.
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> Don
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au%3cmailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Chris Morgan
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> Hi all ? just doing some revision with my students (as I?m sure we all are) ? I?d LOVE to find some practical exercises to work through to hone our normalisation skills. Yep, I know there are the questions on the previous years? exams, however that?s only a few?.anybody know of some or can suggest where I might look?
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> Thanks Chris
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au%3cmailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robert Timmer-Arends
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> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Normalisation
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> Hello Mark and others
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> One of the concerns I have about these normalisation discussions is that there appear to be a lot of issues conflated into a single word 'normalisation', hence not leading to clear answers.
> For example, when one says 'a clear and logical way to explain normalisation' does one mean:
> - explain what normalisation is
> - explain why normalisation is needed
> - explain how to recognise when a set of tables is (is not) normalised
> - explain what the normal forms are
> - explain how to arrive at each normal form
> - explain why each normal form is defined the way it is (what it is trying to prevent/achieve)
> etc
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> Regards
> Robert T-A
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> ... slides which I'm still trying to get right.  :-o
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> I keep trying to find a clear and logical way to explain normalisation, but never quite get there.
> Just be thankful we only need to get to 3NF, and not 5NF.
> 
> Arghh!
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> On 23 April 2015 at 13:24, Laurie Savage <08327998 at pvgc.vic.edu.au<mailto:08327998 at pvgc.vic.edu.au<mailto:08327998 at pvgc.vic.edu.au%3cmailto:08327998 at pvgc.vic.edu.au>>> wrote:
> I guess you have shown them Mark Kelly's wonderful slides?
> Laurie
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> Laurie Savage
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> On 23 April 2015 at 11:34, Sylvia Pastore <smp191172 at gmail.com<mailto:smp191172 at gmail.com<mailto:smp191172 at gmail.com%3cmailto:smp191172 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Would anyone have any tasks relating to normalisation that they are willing to share, my kids need more practise.
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> Thanks
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