[Year 12 IT Apps] Accuracy of Wikipedia

Rob Minato rminato at ccw.vic.edu.au
Thu Apr 19 08:01:29 EST 2012


A few years ago, one of my students showed me the edits for our school. It was quite interesting to see the damage that can occur to a page by a malicious student. While most content that I have seen is quite good, I do have my concerns.

Rob

Robert Minato
Teacher
Arts and Technology Domain
Catholic College Wodonga
1 Bowman Crt
Wodonga Vic 3690
0260435546
rminato at ccw.vic.edu.au

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On 19/04/2012, at 12:27 AM, Roland Gesthuizen wrote:

> Three places within a Wikipedia page is worth checking.
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> 1. The discussion pages are good. This highlights any controversial issues and burning topics and is the flip side of the page that you first see. Remember that not everybody agrees about a point of view but these currents create the islands that we call Wikipedia pages. Whilst you can laugh over the flat earth society arguing that the page about planet earth should be modified to read "Most people believe it is round", there is a more serious side to issues surrounding countries such as Taiwan and leading world figures.
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> 2. The references at the bottom are great, in some cases they may provide a better explanation than the original article. Similarly, you can question something if no reference material is cited. Years ago I started the Wikipedia page about the first Aboriginal cricket player. OK, I got most of my stuff over a christmas beer with a fellow staff member but to my delight, somebody has since added in new material and the missing references. 
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> 3, Lastly, check the page edits. If somebody has vandalised a page, you can see the changes and reversals. This is especially true if you are suspictious about something that you are reading. 
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> OK, I'll admit a minor offense. During the VITTA sponsored trip to NECC2008 ot the USA, I had no intention of tipping .. an act that I equate to legalised begging. I happily created an Australian section on the Wikipedia tipping page noting that not only do we often forget to tip, just asking an Australian for a gratuity is considered offensive. I then added a paragraph about the local charity boxes and blind dogs that are chained to shop fronts etc. When challenged to fill the pockets of service staff, I would point them to the modified Wikipedia article. Sadly, a small Brisbane based group of service staff found my 'error' and corrected it after a couple of weeks.
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> I use Wikipedia all the time. Telling students that it is full of errors smacks of sour grapes. By all means, teach secondary students to gauge the authority of the words on a page and question what they are reading. Insisting on primary sources for all their work is probably unrealistic. If something is stated without any proof or collaboration, it can be probably dismissed without proof.
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> Regards Roland (from the south-west corner of the flat earth)
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> On 17 April 2012 18:20, Pearse, Steven S <pearse.steven.s at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> We had the cyber-safety lecture today (from the government) regarding things that we are(or should be) aware of, so I won’t bring it up here. What did bring my attention was a story that was told that I found amusing, possible but unlikely. It goes as follows.
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> A teacher asked her students to complete a research assignment on something historical on a Monday and asked the students to hand it in on Friday. In that particular class there was  a student that was very diligent, completed work on time etc etc. He finished the assignment by C+P (or using it for research) the wiki page and handing it in on the Tuesday. The student then proceeded to change the wiki page and a large amount of the students used this information to create their assignments and handed in work with bogus content. This information stayed on there until the teacher looked on Friday and the student confessed to what he had done.
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> All the teachers in our staffroom laughed quite rightly, but then I started thinking – where did she hear that story from? I didn’t stop to ask, but I have my doubts about the accuracy. I also have heard my students being told by other teachers not to use Wikipedia at all as its information is not reliable. I did some snooping around (albeit briefly) and found that it has been likened to Encyclopædia Britannica in terms of accuracy. Most bogus things are found and deleted very quickly.
> Personally I have found it to be very accurate when I cross check it with other sources, and think that is it getting a lot of bad press.
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> I would welcome other people’s thoughts on this matter.. Do you instruct your students to avoid Wikipedia?
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> (Also – the “Wikipedia is a starting point was my advice”)
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> (FYI – although I understand the irony of adding a wiki reliability page that is a Wikipedia page J )
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia
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> Steve Pearse
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> Narre Warren P-12
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