[Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software

Fri Nov 25 15:30:41 EST 2011

Are you stretching it too far? I think so, but I look forward to hearing what others think.

The VCAA Bulletin says 
"For examination purposes, students must be familiar with all of the listed functions for the selected software tools." Just what "familiar with" means in VCAA speak I do not know. But I would assume that students are expected to be able to "do" all those things.

Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM, COF
Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adric Gardner 
  To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List' 
  Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software

  Thanks Robert & Michael, 

  I missed this while looking at my options.
  (although we did do it this year as we used dreamweaver.)

  Ok, the paid version of www.yola.com enables custom css scripting.

  However, even the basic version creates CSS for the site when you've designed it.  Does this meet the criteria? the software is producing CSS and students change the CSS when changing the site's appearance, they simply can't change the code directly.

  I take this to be the same as using Access to create queries.  In access, you are not writing the SQL query, just the query condition.  Am I stretching this too far?

  Thanks for all your help and advice.

  Cheers,

  Adric

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Michael Torsello (Mr)
  Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011 2:13 PM
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software

  Adric

  From the VCAA support materials: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/correspondence/bulletins/2010/July/vce_study.html#2

  IT Applications: Tools and functions 2011
  As published in the VCAA Bulletin, July 10, pp.5-6.

  Web authoring software

  ·         cascading style sheet

  ·         edit and format content

  ·         links (relative and absolute links, internal and external links)

  ·         navigation

  ·         buttons

  ·         screen layout

  ·         tagging (metadata tags, alt tags)

  ·         forms

  ·         incorporate images/sound

  This is the minimum expectations at Units 3 / 4. Worth looking at for other software too.

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  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Adric Gardner
  Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011 2:00 PM
  To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software

  From what I have seen, they entirely meet all of the Key Skills.

  There is no mention of CSS or even html in the study design in any of the Units.  The closest is:

  ·        functions of web authoring software used to manipulate data

  and 

  ·         functions, techniques and procedures for efficiently and effectively manipulating data using web authoring or multimedia authoring software.

  The only mention of style sheets in the entire IT study design document refers to the problem solving methodology.

  Can you let me know if I've missed something please.

  Cheers,

  Adric

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mann, Warrick D
  Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011 11:31 AM
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  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software

  Hi Adric,

  My question on using these tools would be, do they meet the Key Skills requirements for students? Such as CSS.

  Cheers

  Warrick

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Adric Gardner
  Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011 11:01 AM
  To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software

  Yes, thanks for that Brett.

  I've looked at Kompozer (and seamonkey, coffeecup and some others)

  I would strongly recommend people take a look at Web Plus (by Serif) from a design perspective 
  (There is a free starter version available).

  However, I come back to my main question.  Would a web based tool such as Weebly or Yola be considered a Web Authoring Tool for the sake of the study design?

  Cheers,

  Adric

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Brett Groves
  Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011 9:49 AM
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  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software

  Weebly is probably the easiest thing around if students were creating, say, an online help site. ie if the focus was the content and not the creation. If you were looking to focus on  actual web design then I use Kompozer, it's FOSS, super easy to use and deceptively powerful with just a little css/html/javascript knowledge. It also contains none of the ExpressionWeb/Dreamweaver extras that I never use anyway

Regards,Brett GrovesICT ManagerCroydon Secondary College
  On 25/11/11 00:21, Adric Gardner wrote: 

  Hi Guys,

  I'm considering a move away from Dreamweaver next year as I believe it is overly complicated for what they need to achieve.

  I'm considering a move to something like www.yola.com which is an online drag and drop website creation tool.

  What I wanted to know is whether other people see this as a 'Web Authoring Tool' for study design purposes like I do.

  Cheers,

  Adric Gardner

  Yellow House Leader

  Ashwood College

  Vannam Drive

  ASHWOOD 3147

  Ph: (03) 9807 1333

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