[Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

Tue Nov 15 13:29:29 EST 2011

Quite right it covers electronic messages only not snail mail.

So not the Spam Act 2003.

So the correct response would be the Information Privacy Act 2000.

Which covers local councils as well as Victorian Government agencies and contractors.

I think

thanks
M

"The busier you get, the slower you walk" anon

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Hines
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But the Spam act over covers electronic messages, not vouchers sent out to homes...

Part of her idea is to make a mailing list from the database she acquired, so the IT Manager could then point out IPA based on that.

Confusing question either way...

Mr Ben Hines

VCE Maths/ICT Teacher
Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong
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RE MC Q10

The answer is Option A Spam Act 2003.

The last line of the stem includes " "to convince Sandra her idea is a bad one"

Her idea is the mail-out to potential members hence Spam Act.

Her obtaining the customer database was not necessarily "her idea".

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Mark Scott
Luther College

"The busier you get, the slower you walk" anon

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Isn't there a principle about disclosure. Assuming that the large sports company did not ask the customer's consent before the database was given to Sandra by a friend, then a NPP is broken and IPA is the legislation in this case.

Mr Ben Hines

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I completely failed to notice the snail mail aspect! Good point!

But if it's IPA, which national privacy principle is she abusing?
On 15 November 2011 10:35, Ben Hines <b.hines at ccg.vic.edu.au<mailto:b.hines at ccg.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
Is the Q10 answer, the Spam Act - since she will be sending mail to people's homes (not electronic). For that reason I would go with the Information Privacy Act since she is part of Victorian council.

Any thoughts?

Mr Ben Hines

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I'm with Mark on this one. Definitely A.

Validation can ensure that I input a date of birth for example that is reasonable, say 12/08/1981 but is it accurate, no!

Here are my multiple choice answers.

1 B
2 A
3 D
4 D
5 A
6 A
7 B
8 A
9 A - not so confident on that one
10 A
11 C
12 C
13 B
14 B
15 D
16 C
17 B
18 B
19 C
20 C

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Validation deals with data entry.

Options B, C and D are all testing to ensure data manipulation is correct/accurate etc.

Only option A clearly deals with data entry (i.e. the most correct option)

thanks
Mark Scott
Luther College

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Dear wiser colleagues
Can someone help me with MC question 8?

An effective validation technique is evident when ... all answers seem to support the presence of an effective validation technique.

A - at first glance the answer but is reasonableness the best evidence of validation?
B- an accurate report suggests accurate input data, doesn't it?
C- least likely but again "reasonably"? What does that mean? If data can be sorted is it valid?
D -calculated files gives correct answers! Is this evidence of GIGO - not garbage in, garbage out, but good in, good out?

I'm confused!
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Yeah I just found that, thanks

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A - Scope see page 17 of the study design.

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I cannot believe that number question. No one would normally type numbers in as numerals, set the data type to text and then order from A -> Z.

I doubt anyone would get the answer to that unless they have accidentally done it in the past.

Because you have entered them as text, the sort will only look at the left most number to order them (just like with normal ones).

Answer according to Access is B....

Question 5 in the Multiple Choice? What's the consensus on that one?

Ta

Mr Ben Hines

VCE Maths/ICT Teacher
Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong
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I don't have the paper in front of me, but after a quick chat to my students, plain to see that they had differing opinions on the sorting of numbers as text question in the multiple choice.

I'm not marking this year by the way.

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I'm reading the paper now.

Section A looks pretty free of rabies.

I have put the gun down after reading the normalisation question...  Thank Dog sanity prevailed on that one!

Damn that ERD question - three marks and they had to draw an entire diagram from scratch!  Grrr.

The 8 mark question appeared, as we expected.  And it was approachable.

Overall, I think I might give the dog a bone.

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