[Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

Tue Nov 15 11:50:53 EST 2011

2.1 An organisation must not use or disclose personal

information about an individual for a purpose (the

secondary purpose) other than the primary

purpose of collection unless-

Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM, COF
Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ben Hines 
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  Isn't there a principle about disclosure. Assuming that the large sports company did not ask the customer's consent before the database was given to Sandra by a friend, then a NPP is broken and IPA is the legislation in this case.

  Mr Ben Hines

  VCE Maths/ICT Teacher

  Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong

  ((03) 52411577 (ext. 212)

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
  Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 10:52 AM
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  I completely failed to notice the snail mail aspect! Good point!

  But if it's IPA, which national privacy principle is she abusing?

  On 15 November 2011 10:35, Ben Hines <b.hines at ccg.vic.edu.au> wrote:

  Is the Q10 answer, the Spam Act - since she will be sending mail to people's homes (not electronic). For that reason I would go with the Information Privacy Act since she is part of Victorian council.

  Any thoughts?

  Mr Ben Hines

  VCE Maths/ICT Teacher

  Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong

  ((03) 52411577 (ext. 212)

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Howard, David
  Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:31 AM

  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  I'm with Mark on this one. Definitely A.

  Validation can ensure that I input a date of birth for example that is reasonable, say 12/08/1981 but is it accurate, no!

  Here are my multiple choice answers.

  1 B

  2 A

  3 D

  4 D

  5 A

  6 A

  7 B

  8 A

  9 A - not so confident on that one

  10 A

  11 C 

  12 C

  13 B 

  14 B

  15 D

  16 C

  17 B

  18 B

  19 C

  20 C

  David Howard
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  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Scott
  Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:14 AM
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  Validation deals with data entry.

  Options B, C and D are all testing to ensure data manipulation is correct/accurate etc.

  Only option A clearly deals with data entry (i.e. the most correct option)

  thanks

  Mark Scott

  Luther College

  "The busier you get, the slower you walk" anon

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Michael Torsello (Mr)
  Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:03 AM
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  Dear wiser colleagues

  Can someone help me with MC question 8?

  An effective validation technique is evident when . all answers seem to support the presence of an effective validation technique.

  A - at first glance the answer but is reasonableness the best evidence of validation?

  B- an accurate report suggests accurate input data, doesn't it?

  C- least likely but again "reasonably"? What does that mean? If data can be sorted is it valid?

  D -calculated files gives correct answers! Is this evidence of GIGO - not garbage in, garbage out, but good in, good out?

  I'm confused!

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  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Hines
  Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 4:32 PM
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  Yeah I just found that, thanks

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Howard, David
  Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 3:39 PM
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  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  A - Scope see page 17 of the study design.

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Hines
  Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 2:37 PM
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  I cannot believe that number question. No one would normally type numbers in as numerals, set the data type to text and then order from A -> Z.

  I doubt anyone would get the answer to that unless they have accidentally done it in the past. 

  Because you have entered them as text, the sort will only look at the left most number to order them (just like with normal ones).

  Answer according to Access is B..

  Question 5 in the Multiple Choice? What's the consensus on that one?

  Ta

  Mr Ben Hines

  VCE Maths/ICT Teacher

  Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong

  ((03) 52411577 (ext. 212)

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Howard, David
  Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 2:15 PM
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  I don't have the paper in front of me, but after a quick chat to my students, plain to see that they had differing opinions on the sorting of numbers as text question in the multiple choice.

  I'm not marking this year by the way.

  From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
  Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 1:52 PM
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
  Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

  I'm reading the paper now. 

  Section A looks pretty free of rabies.

  I have put the gun down after reading the normalisation question...  Thank Dog sanity prevailed on that one!

  Damn that ERD question - three marks and they had to draw an entire diagram from scratch!  Grrr.

  The 8 mark question appeared, as we expected.  And it was approachable.

  Overall, I think I might give the dog a bone.

  -- 
  Mark Kelly
  Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area
  McKinnon Secondary College
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