[Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

Tue Nov 15 09:45:08 EST 2011

The spreadsheet would sort them as numbers, not as A-Z. Question 13
would use the first integer in each number to begin the sort I would
say, which makes the answer B.

There is a similar question in one of the VITTA Software Development
exams with a sorting algorithm that my kids struggled with in class.

Cheers

Trav

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Esko Lossi
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When I do question 13 (Section A) on a spreadsheet, the answer the
spreadsheet gives is A.

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ken Tonkin
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David, I agree with most of your answers for the MC questions, except
no.9 I think the answer should be 9B as tactical decisions are more
short term and specific.

Ken Tonkin

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Howard, David
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I'm with Mark on this one. Definitely A.

Validation can ensure that I input a date of birth for example that is
reasonable, say 12/08/1981 but is it accurate, no!

Here are my multiple choice answers.

1 B

2 A

3 D

4 D

5 A

6 A

7 B

8 A

9 A - not so confident on that one

10 A

11 C 

12 C

13 B 

14 B

15 D

16 C

17 B

18 B

19 C

20 C

David Howard
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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Scott
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Validation deals with data entry.

Options B, C and D are all testing to ensure data manipulation is
correct/accurate etc.

Only option A clearly deals with data entry (i.e. the most correct
option)

thanks

Mark Scott

Luther College

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Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:03 AM
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Dear wiser colleagues

Can someone help me with MC question 8?

An effective validation technique is evident when ... all answers seem
to support the presence of an effective validation technique.

A - at first glance the answer but is reasonableness the best evidence
of validation?

B- an accurate report suggests accurate input data, doesn't it?

C- least likely but again "reasonably"? What does that mean? If data can
be sorted is it valid?

D -calculated files gives correct answers! Is this evidence of GIGO -
not garbage in, garbage out, but good in, good out?

I'm confused!

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Yeah I just found that, thanks

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A - Scope see page 17 of the study design.

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I cannot believe that number question. No one would normally type
numbers in as numerals, set the data type to text and then order from A
-> Z.

I doubt anyone would get the answer to that unless they have
accidentally done it in the past. 

Because you have entered them as text, the sort will only look at the
left most number to order them (just like with normal ones).

Answer according to Access is B....

Question 5 in the Multiple Choice? What's the consensus on that one?

Ta

Mr Ben Hines

VCE Maths/ICT Teacher

Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong

((03) 52411577 (ext. 212)

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I don't have the paper in front of me, but after a quick chat to my
students, plain to see that they had differing opinions on the sorting
of numbers as text question in the multiple choice.

I'm not marking this year by the way.

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KELLY
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I'm reading the paper now. 

Section A looks pretty free of rabies.

I have put the gun down after reading the normalisation question...
Thank Dog sanity prevailed on that one!

Damn that ERD question - three marks and they had to draw an entire
diagram from scratch!  Grrr.

The 8 mark question appeared, as we expected.  And it was approachable.

Overall, I think I might give the dog a bone.

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