[Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

Tue Nov 15 08:39:56 EST 2011

Yes mark, that was my first thought too.

But isn't all correct and accurate data manipulation based (is evident)
on valid data?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------

With Thanks

Michael Torsello

Director of Computing

St Margaret's School, Berwick

Berwick Grammar School, Officer

Ph: (03) 9703 8111

P Save paper and trees. Do you need to print this email?

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Scott
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:14 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

Validation deals with data entry.

Options B, C and D are all testing to ensure data manipulation is
correct/accurate etc.

Only option A clearly deals with data entry (i.e. the most correct
option)

thanks

Mark Scott

Luther College

"The busier you get, the slower you walk" anon

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Michael Torsello
(Mr)
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:03 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

Dear wiser colleagues

Can someone help me with MC question 8?

An effective validation technique is evident when ... all answers seem
to support the presence of an effective validation technique.

A - at first glance the answer but is reasonableness the best evidence
of validation?

B- an accurate report suggests accurate input data, doesn't it?

C- least likely but again "reasonably"? What does that mean? If data can
be sorted is it valid?

D -calculated files gives correct answers! Is this evidence of GIGO -
not garbage in, garbage out, but good in, good out?

I'm confused!

------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------

With Thanks

Michael Torsello

Director of Computing

St Margaret's School, Berwick

Berwick Grammar School, Officer

Ph: (03) 9703 8111

P Save paper and trees. Do you need to print this email?

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Hines
Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 4:32 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

Yeah I just found that, thanks

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Howard, David
Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 3:39 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

A - Scope see page 17 of the study design.

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Hines
Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 2:37 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

I cannot believe that number question. No one would normally type
numbers in as numerals, set the data type to text and then order from A
-> Z.

I doubt anyone would get the answer to that unless they have
accidentally done it in the past. 

Because you have entered them as text, the sort will only look at the
left most number to order them (just like with normal ones).

Answer according to Access is B....

Question 5 in the Multiple Choice? What's the consensus on that one?

Ta

Mr Ben Hines

VCE Maths/ICT Teacher

Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong

((03) 52411577 (ext. 212)

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Howard, David
Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 2:15 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

I don't have the paper in front of me, but after a quick chat to my
students, plain to see that they had differing opinions on the sorting
of numbers as text question in the multiple choice.

I'm not marking this year by the way.

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 1:52 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

I'm reading the paper now. 

Section A looks pretty free of rabies.

I have put the gun down after reading the normalisation question...
Thank Dog sanity prevailed on that one!

Damn that ERD question - three marks and they had to draw an entire
diagram from scratch!  Grrr.

The 8 mark question appeared, as we expected.  And it was approachable.

Overall, I think I might give the dog a bone.

-- 
Mark Kelly
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
VCE IT Lecture Notes: http://vceit.com
Moderator: IT Applications Edulist <http://www.edulists.com.au/> 

Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.

________________________________

Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content
filtering.
http://www.mailguard.com.au

Report this message as spam
<https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1DwtSCvVLg/3l3gMtKTlFjw3U6WDhW9WD
/0.002>   

This e-mail is intended for the use of the named individual or entity
and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any
dissemination, distribution or copying by anyone other than the intended
recipient of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this e-mail has been
received in error, then please notify Christian College or the author of
this email immediately and destroy the original message. We have made
every attempt to ensure this e-mail message is free from computer
viruses however the attached files are provided on the basis that the
user assumes all responsibility for use of the material transmitted.
Views, opinions, etc. expressed reflect those of the author and not
Christian College nor its associated companies and campuses which
includes Eden Quality Services Pty Ltd.

________________________________

Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content
filtering.
http://www.mailguard.com.au

________________________________

Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content
filtering.
http://www.mailguard.com.au

Report this message as spam
<https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1DwvnwjLRM/qPkWQK7xjKwKxXL4nIV62/
0.002>   

This e-mail is intended for the use of the named individual or entity
and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any
dissemination, distribution or copying by anyone other than the intended
recipient of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this e-mail has been
received in error, then please notify Christian College or the author of
this email immediately and destroy the original message. We have made
every attempt to ensure this e-mail message is free from computer
viruses however the attached files are provided on the basis that the
user assumes all responsibility for use of the material transmitted.
Views, opinions, etc. expressed reflect those of the author and not
Christian College nor its associated companies and campuses which
includes Eden Quality Services Pty Ltd.

________________________________

Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content
filtering.
http://www.mailguard.com.au

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/itapps/attachments/20111115/b3c42e1c/attachment-0001.html 
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: image/png
Size: 2035 bytes
Desc: image001.png
Url : http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/itapps/attachments/20111115/b3c42e1c/attachment-0001.png 