[Year 12 IT Apps] this database thread again....

Tue May 31 12:00:55 EST 2011

Does anyone still use FoxPro?  I used it in the old IPM SAC days, early 90s
- can't remember why on I chose it...
Maybe because it was there.

>From memory, it was quite nice to use.

On 31 May 2011 11:34, Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

>  Andrew...Dbase..yep used that too! DbIV. (blue screen white font...). I
> actually did enjoy that program dare I say it.
>
> ok..so I'm a dinosaur..but I like being a dinosaur!!!
>
> KB.
>  Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
> behalf of Andrew Shortell [shortell at get2me.net]
> *Sent:* Saturday, 28 May 2011 7:33 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] this database thread again....
>
>  Hi Kent
>
>  Yes I remember doing that in cobol also. I have used sql, access, dbase
> 3, dbase 4, filemaker in quite a few versions, , hated doing database
> activities in spreadsheets esp using microsloth products on the dark side
>
>  At least you can pay bills online at the moment - my credit card is gone
> thanks to being cancelled due to fraudulent activity - might be ten days
> before I see the new one.
> I have actually used cash to pay for petrol - felt very weird.
>
>  Database stuff - there are always new people to convert to the light --
> "to normalise" so it is wonderful to revive an old old thread again now we
> feel "normal" (ised)
>
>  Andrew
>
>  Andrew Shortell
> Heidelberg Teaching Unit in 2011
>
>  On 28/05/2011, at 4:54 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:
>
>   are we still yappin about this old chestnut again????
>
>
> Who upset Mark this time!!?? lol.
>
>
> ok...so what about the OpenOffice people??   Oops..almost forgot those
> fruit loving vegetarians(Apple Mac users).
>
>
> And just for a curve ball with a last minute left dip..I wrote a database
> years ago using COBOL. It ordered, sorted, colored, columned and printed but
> didnt make coffee, order lunch for you or park your car!! (it used a good ol
> comma delimited data file too)
>
>
> oh how I love these chats...puts a smile on my dial...
>
>
> your turn now...
>
>
> hehehehe...
>
>
> (me? I've used Access, Clipper, Oracle. Have OpenOffice on my home
> box(saves $$ and space!)  and no, I havent used FileMaker, so cant comment
> on it.
> Oh, yeah, we also must remember that DB apps can be made with spreadsheets
> too...just to throw a fly in the ointment here.)
>
>
> ......must be time to put the kettle on! Got no money left, just paid some
> bills online.....oh, and told an e-marketing crew to go jump!
>
>
>  Kent Beveridge
>  ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
> behalf of Litsa Tzelepis [htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au]
> *Sent:* Saturday, 28 May 2011 11:50 AM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] (no subject)
>
>   oh no!
> so who don't they laugh at?
> {:-|
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<itapps at edulists.com.au>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] (no subject)
>
>  People might laugh at Access users, but think of us Filemaker users.
>
> In the street, dogs laugh at us, children bite us, and accountants poke us
> with sticks  :-(
>
> On 27 May 2011 19:51, Jenny Gielb <Tafe at imaginethis.biz> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> A lot of IT people laugh at MS Access, they view it as puny and
>> inconsequential. As someone who has made quite a bit of money out of
>> developing MS Access databases for many different businesses, I laugh at
>> them.
>> It is not as secure or reliable as SQL or MYSQL, or as relevant in terms
>> of internet development but it is a very powerful tool. It has the benefit
>> of being already available to anyone with Office, it has a fantastic GUI
>> interface which PHP, .NET, VB, Crystal Reports and SQL do not have. It also
>> has everything in the one package, which none of the others have. It is
>> basically the best available software to train anyone in databases and
>> system development. Once a student understands the concepts of database
>> design, VBA code and front-end screen development, they can easily pick up
>> any other database tool.
>> I agree, it would be more beneficial to teach the students web-based
>> coding and databases, but that is very complex, is changing constantly, and
>> there is so many choices there that you can't decide what to use.
>> I think teaching them the basics of databases and websites is more
>> important, they can take it further if they want later.
>>
>> As an Access developer I have never ever, and wouldn't ever use drop-down
>> boxes on tables. Drop-down boxes are for forms and data entry. Don't confuse
>> the issue. Tables are for storing data, forms are for entering and
>> displaying, reports are for displaying data. You have to set up basic forms
>> for data entry anyway.
>> Jenny
>>
>>
>>
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Mark Kelly
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
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