[Year 12 IT Apps] 2010 ITA examiners' report

Andrew Shortell shortell at get2me.net
Fri May 20 08:58:45 EST 2011


Hi Mark and others (and aware that Paula and Claudia will read this too!!)

Those of you who have marked exams (as I have for over twenty years) will
know that this comment is just NOT ON. (all caps deliberate)
There is vigorous and Robust (remember IPM) debate between markers about
what is correct, what is acceptable and what we should accept.
If you really are worried about what the exam marking people actually do
then you should apply to mark exams and actually do 300-400 in ten days.

I feel that this comment is JUST NOT ON.

Andrew

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On 20/05/11 8:39 AM, "Mark KELLY" <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Frank.  Yes, question 5a about the critical path is fine. In fact it didn't
> depend on the Gantt chart at all. 
> 
> It's the 4 marks for the Gantt chart in Q5b that kids may have lost. I don't
> know how many marks were lost if my kids started task B in day 1 and correctly
> added dependency arrows to D and E from the dummy task (as they probably
> probably would have done).
> 
> It's easy enough to find mistakes in the questions asked in an exam; the
> problem is that if the markers' solution is wrong, we can't find out until the
> assessment report is released and it's far too late to do any good.
> 
> On 19 May 2011 17:29, Russo, Frank R <Russo.Frank.R at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>> Hi Mark
>> Technically the only problem with the Gant chart is that Task B and A would
>> have begun @ the same time but then there would have been 3 days slack time
>> while A and then C were completed so the answers would still be correct even
>> though the chart has errors.
>>  
>> Yet another awesome question from the Examiners well almost?
>>  
>> Frank
>>  
>> 
>> Frank Russo
>> Leading Teacher - Timetabling & Daily Organiser
>> Monterey Secondary College
>> Frankston North, 3200
>> Phone: 9781-7700
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
>> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 12:09 PM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2010 ITA examiners' report
>>  
>> From the 2010 ITA Exam - Question 5B.  I have a belated complaint now that
>> I've seen the examiner's official answer in the assessment report
>> <http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/assessr
>> eports/2010/itapps_assessrep_10.pdf> .
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can someone please point out if I'm wrong, but I think they've badly messed
>> up the answer, and kids will have unfairly lost up to 4 marks.
>> 
>>> >From the PERT chart ...
>> 
>> 
>> They asked for a corresponding Gantt chart. Their solution was this:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It's obvious in the PERT that tasks A and B are concurrent.  B is not
>> dependent on A! 
>> Yet in their Gantt, they've clearly shown task B as being dependent on A.
>> Then, they went on to leave out fact that that tasks E and D were also
>> dependent on task B through the dummy task.
>> 
>> I hate to think that my kids lost marks because of these errors by the
>> examiners. 
>> It's too late to re-mark exams, but it really makes me worry that markers can
>> be given such dodgy official answers when grading papers.
>> 
>> Grrrrr!
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 

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