[Year 12 IT Apps] Anyone using Ruby for IT at Year 12/11
Brett Groves
groves.brett.g at edumail.vic.gov.au
Tue Dec 6 00:16:01 EST 2011
Hi Robert,
I noticed afterward that this came through in the Apps not SD list. So I
guess the database quip was doubly incorrect. I guess you could use
rails as an RDBMS but I think you'd spend much more time teaching the
students ruby than the niceties of normalised forms. Oddly I am
absolutely certain I've seen a quite explicit prohibition on SQL/MYSQL
data stores for SD outcome tasks. Been back through the study design and
advice, albeit with some brevity since like everyone else I am arm deep
in reports, but I cannot find that reference. Fairly certain I'm not
hallucinating, that only happens beyond report 100 usually :-) It was
discussed at some length in threads on the SD list in 2009/10 and there
was some debate around the relative merits of using comparatively
primitive data storage containers. Perhaps, more knowledgeable heads
than mine can shed more light on this apprehension. Now back to reports :-(
Regards,
Brett Groves
ICT Manager
Croydon Secondary College
On 05/12/11 16:46, Timmer-Arends wrote:
> Hello Brett
> "the study design specifically outlaws databases and insists on text
> base data storage "
> I'm curious to know where it says this?
> Regards
> Robert T-A
> Brighton SC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Brett Groves <mailto:groves.brett.g at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
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> *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2011 11:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Anyone using Ruby for IT at Year
> 12/11
>
> Yes we used Ruby and Shooes for the gui last year. Mixed results,
> much slower for me to help students debug, generally easier for
> rapid development but students would have universally preferred
> VbNet. The most issues I found were around the lack of a really
> good gui generator, basically Shooes sucks for anything but the
> simplest gui. On the plus side if you use Netbeans as your IDE it
> supports both Ruby and Rails brilliantly, great to work with. A
> word of caution though the study design specifically outlaws
> databases and insists on text base data storage so Rails is of no
> use to you whatsoever. Cheers
>
> Regards,
> Brett Groves
> ICT Manager
> Croydon Secondary College
>
>
> On 05/12/11 11:22, Ciotti, George W wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I was just wondering whether anyone is or has used Ruby? More
>> commonly known as Ruby on Rails or just Rails. It seems like an
>> interesting environment that could be used in ITA and ITSD. I am
>> currently learning the language and even from the early stages of
>> the tutorials it seems a very good fit for senior IT classes.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> George
>>
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