[Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Are iPads 'computers'?

Mon Sep 20 23:02:22 EST 2010

Had a chance now to think about this thread (and use an iPad for a couple of
months)

Brendyn is right .. tablet computing needs time to embed itself and is
moving into schools as an eBook platform rather than a content creation
tool. Still, I have spent more time on the iPad doing stuff than on my
laptop and loving instant startup and magazine apps such as Flipbook.
Crikey, if something can mean that there are no longer those huge books to
lug around then it gets the thumbs up. The rest just becomes eye candy
whilst my right arm muscle is building up strength. :-)

My imaginationary ideal tablet computer holder is an kind of soft covered
folder with the tablet on the LHS and my pen / pad on the RHS. One to take
notes, the other to reference stuff from. Hmm, perhaps make that a
LiveScribe pen and later reference my notes on the iPad with the LiveScribe
App. Perhaps it isnt even a tablet but something I can fold up and stick
into my pocket.

http://gizmodo.com/5590745/livescribe-echo-the-smartpen-gets-some-brilliant-upgrades

Jenny Ashby has been working at this cutting edge for a couple of years with
iPod Touch units and her LiveScribe. I was impressed when I saw he she uses
and integrates this technology into her classroom.

Regards Roland

On 5 August 2010 12:27, Brendyn Hancock <BHancock at nagle.vic.edu.au> wrote:

>  All
>
> Interesting conversation. At Nagle we have purchased an iPAD and have
> freely handed it around trhe staff to 'play' with. Its important to let
> staff play i think. I have defined it as being a great information gathering
> tool but not so good at information production.
>
> Also found out, in some cases anyway, that when you buy an iPAD app its
> actually lic for 20 devices. Thats not bad. A great app on the periodic
> table for $3.95 and we can use it on a room full of iPADs!
>
> Cheers
>
> Brendyn
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Roland Gesthuizen
> *Sent:* Thu 5/08/2010 11:16 AM
>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Cc:* Melvin Wilson Jr.
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Are iPads 'computers'?
>
> Thaks Andrew and Mark. We are one of the iPad schools and yes, they are a
> consumer device but having said that .. these eBooks have a huge potential
> to leverage change and most of the issues that you raise are solvable. Check
> this OLPC XO3 video out about the open mode linux model due for release.
> Don't hang around waiting for stuff to happen, you can get some learning
> traction with this stuff now using Apple iPads.
>      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMzuS2qZfc
>
> First thing is to get one for yourself and school administration team. Then
> you will learn first hand what how where what etc. Don't skimp on the
> docking station. It is also wise to consider kicking off with a class set
> too. I hope to put something together to talk about these tablet computers
> at the VITTA conference .. if nobody else is already (hint??). The EdTech
> Crew have also been reviewing them in their podcasts. You can always return
> it to the library for loans etc when you have had your fill of tablet
> computing.
>
> Like other schools, we are in the same boat .. holding over the residual
> funds left from the NSSCP grant for further iPads instead of netbooks or
> considering wider deployments across entire year levels. Kind of glad we
> purchased Macbooks on trolleys with our first stage. I also have a good
> contact we are working with called Mel Wilson who has a tonne of experience
> (details above) who can answer some of your questions. I have had a few
> "aha!" moments myself so feel free to call for an honest chat about where
> this stuff fits in. I'll share my phone number off list. :-)
>
> Regards Roland
>
> On 5 August 2010 09:54, WEIR Andrew <andrew.weir at thomascarr.vic.edu.au>wrote:
>
>>  Mark,
>>
>> (See below my rant)
>>
>> This was a statement circulated to the CEO schools. (At the end of my bit)
>>
>> We looked at the ipad; they are a nice media consumption device but we
>> were a bit concerned about getting data on and off the device IE USB
>> connectivity, student file space and printing.
>>
>> Also word processors and presentation tools are not included in the
>> package so we had to add another Approx $40 to the cost of the device to
>> purchase those apps, I am not sure about site and volume licensing from
>> apple for ipad apps.
>>
>> I know things like Google docs could replace the need for the apps such as
>> pages, but with the wireless running at all times battery life gets
>> shortened and the ipad does not charge from a standard charger, it actually
>> requires a 1 amp usb port and I believe most computers max out a 500 –
>> 700ma. So the availability and OHS requirements for the power need to be
>> considered.
>>
>> There was also the issue of support and Jail Braking. There are pro’s and
>> cons for custom OS and other things but what then happens to the security of
>> the network. Should schools support devices that have been jail broken and
>> how can we stop students Jail braking the device especially if we let them
>> take the devices home.
>>
>>
>>
>> From a LOTE, Humanities and to some point English point of view we did
>> find some major benefits and have not ruled out purchasing two class sets
>> but as the main stream student device we are not totally convinced of
>> version 1 of the ipad. Let’s see what apple says for second generation.
>>
>> Some of the pro’s were ITunes university, Ipad books especially
>> Shakespeare and other novels.
>>
>> Also at this point we are actually taking a step back from technology and
>> really look at the curriculum so that it is supported and enhanced by
>> whatever “device” we choose.
>>
>> Anyway this is only just the opinion of a teacher getting over a bad dose
>> of flu. So happy to see a healthy discussion.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> *****************************************************************
>>
>> *iPad*
>>
>> Many schools have also asked if the new iPad would be approved as a
>> ‘computer’ under the DER
>>
>> funding. Initially, the advice from DEEWR was that it was not eligible.
>> However, the following advice was
>>
>> received by us on 23 June:
>>
>> *Many of you have sought advice about whether the new Apple iPad meets
>> eligibility requirements*
>>
>> *under the National Secondary School Computer Fund. I would like to
>> advise that DEEWR*
>>
>> *considers that the iPad does meet the existing definitions of an
>> eligible computer device under*
>>
>> *the Fund. An iPad is a particular type of tablet computer and these have
>> been considered as*
>>
>> *eligible devices since the implementation of the Fund in 2008.*
>>
>> *A tablet, including the iPad, allows users to input information via
>> QWERTY typing, it runs word*
>>
>> *processing and other efficiency applications and it provides a means of
>> accessing information*
>>
>> *from the Internet. The major difference between a tablet and a
>> conventional laptop is that the*
>>
>> *keyboard is a software generated function on a screen rather than a
>> physical object. The iPad*
>>
>> *runs different applications from other laptops.*
>>
>> *In summary, DEEWR considers that the iPad, as a tablet, can be purchased
>> under the Fund but*
>>
>> *it is a matter for education authorities/schools to decide if the
>> application suite on an iPad meets*
>>
>> *the educational needs of their students.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Andrew Weir*
>>
>> Information Technology Co-ordinator
>>
>> Thomas Carr College
>>
>>
>>      <http://www.thomascarr.vic.edu.au/> <http://www.thomascarr.vic.edu.au/>
>>   <http://www.thomascarr.vic.edu.au/> <http://www.thomascarr.vic.edu.au/>
>>
>> **
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
>> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Mark KELLY
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 5 August 2010 9:08 AM
>> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Are iPads 'computers'?
>>
>>
>>
>> A poser just occurred to me as I plan budgets for next year: if we buy
>> iPads, would they count as *computers* in the annual school ICT inventory
>> (and therefore count towards DEECD's planned 1:1 ratio of year 9-12 students
>> per computer)?
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>> Manager - Information Systems; Reporting Manager
>> McKinnon Secondary College
>> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
>> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
>> School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253
>> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
>>
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> Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
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Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
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