[Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011

Zach Alexakos alexakos.zach.z at edumail.vic.gov.au
Mon Sep 13 10:07:00 EST 2010


Dare I say it but maybe the Œreviewer¹ or the Œsystem¹ cannot distinguish
between Œfactors within our control and factors outside our control¹??-

Zach Alexakos





On 11/09/10 10:56 AM, "Roland Gesthuizen" <rgesthuizen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Three years ago, my VCE IT classes got shouldered with the Arts block so the
> my students are generally drawn from Maths-Science to Business Studies-Arts.
> Most have an ESL background and my most 'accademic' IT student has only been
> in Australia for a couple of years and struggles with many basic computing
> ideas. I am still smouldering by the reviewer who openly ticked me off for a
> decline in IT results. Explaining to a bean-counter about small sample sizes,
> teaching for all and shifting cohort groups doesnt cut much cloth when they
> wave their moderation wand.
> 
> Oddly enough, I have more girls in my year 12 class than boys. I put this to
> the splendid Go-Girls-Gor-For IT seminar we ran for the year 10s a couple of
> years ago. My guess is that if I hadn't done this, we would also be down to
> just one class. The pictures speak for themselves and I believe they are
> running the event again.
>     http://www.flickr.com/photos/plakboek/sets/72157624373556087/
> 
> Lock and load .. 
> 
> Regards Roland
> 
> PS: My biggest challenge is enthusing kids to return to school / class
> following the term break for revision and sticking it out. For the past couple
> of years, I sit outside the examination room to fire off a threatening glare
> for anybody that even just dates to think about leaving early (sigh) .. some
> later admit that the thought of a grumpy Mr G lurking outside keeps them
> indoors.
> 
> PSS: Increasingly like the idea of switching to offering SD instead next year.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Brendyn Hancock <BHancock at nagle.vic.edu.au>
> wrote:
>> M
>>  
>> Many of our kids are taking classes with fancy names and little content. Many
>> of them are going for classes that require less of them. Many of the VCE kids
>> are going to VCAL/VET.
>> Lots are going to more social based content classes. Environmental Studies.
>> Social Justice studies. Art.
>>  
>> My observation.
>> 
>>  
>> B
>>  
>> Brendyn Hancock
>> ICT Manager
>> Nagle College
>> PO Box 507
>> BAIRNSDALE VIC 3875
>> p 03 5152 6122 ext954
>> f 03 5152 6220
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>> 
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
>> Sent: Friday, 10 September 2010 9:59 AM
>> 
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011
>> 
>>  
>> Do you know where they're going instead?
>> 
>> On 10 September 2010 09:46, Brendyn Hancock <BHancock at nagle.vic.edu.au>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mark
>>  
>> Was just about to post this same discussion. We seem to be all re-visiting
>> this.
>>  
>> Nagle has an enrolment of 950. 2011 classes have just been drafted. Unit
>> 1-2=8 students, Unit 3-4=1 student
>>  
>> Interesting to note we can only raise 2 classes of 25 student for a term
>> elective of gamemaker in Y10 as well.
>>  
>> Trends are trending away from us..
>>  
>> Cheers
>>  
>> B
>>  
>> Brendyn Hancock
>> ICT Manager
>> Nagle College
>> PO Box 507
>> BAIRNSDALE VIC 3875
>> p 03 5152 6122 ext954
>> f 03 5152 6220
>>  
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>>  
>> 
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
>> Sent: Friday, 10 September 2010 9:01 AM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software
>> Development Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011
>> 
>>  
>> It's really odd! 
>> 
>> ITA, which has run continuously forever with good numbers has barely scraped
>> a class together for next year by combining year elevens and twelves into one
>> small ITA class.
>> 
>> SD, which has only run every 3 or so years (with a small cohort when it did
>> run), is nearly over-subscribed.
>> 
>> There don't seem to be any clear local causes for such a great change of
>> attitude (e.g. changes of teachers or big changes in middle-years IT
>> offerings) so I can only put it down to either something in the water, or the
>> changes to the study design.
>> 
>> To be fair, I haven't heard kids explicitly blaming the ITA study design, and
>> for some reason they seem dead keen on programming in our year 10 Info
>> Systems elective. My year 11 IT classes have been dead quiet for 2 weeks with
>> the kids busily coding in VB6.  Last year I had to beat them with chairs to
>> finish the VB material... this year I can sit up the front folding paper
>> aeroplanes and clipping my toenails while they beaver away and sort out
>> problems within their own ranks.
>> 
>> Odd!


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