[Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software
Brett Groves
groves.brett.g at edumail.vic.gov.au
Fri Oct 8 22:09:30 EST 2010
Ubuntu workstations, Open Office 3, Vbox Ubuntu servers, Landscape
monitoring, Clonezilla ghosting....ahhhh.....stuff that actually works!
Kent you actually have the opportunity to employ things we mere mortal
government chalkies can only dream about...lol as we plod along with
bloated proprietary flotsam. Why oh why are you paying licence fees!!??
Free Of Stuffed Software=FOSS but Bill's definition is much more
politically and technically correct.
Cheers
Brett Groves
ICT Manager
Croydon Secondary College
On 08/10/10 15:29, Kent Beveridge wrote:
> Brett mate, ....what is FOSS?
>
> Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
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> [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Brett Groves
> [groves.brett.g at edumail.vic.gov.au]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 7 October 2010 2:25 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software
>
> Question is Kent why then are you still using proprietary software?
>
> In my experience FOSS is often more robust and functional and is of
> course....free.
>
> Leave Bill and Steve and come to the light Kent..lol
>
> Brett Groves
> ICT Manager
> Croydon Secondary College
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> On 06/10/10 22:26, Kent Beveridge wrote:
>> Unfortunately, seems us in the Catholic system miss out on the freebies..
>> Just contacted my techie who informed me that we paid a (insert large
>> $figure here) sum for our recent software licenses.
>> Ah, well, cant have everything I guess.
>> Still, we do try hard to maintain the highest quality of product
>> delivery that we can and pride ourselves in that fact. As too, I am
>> sure we all do (or should!).
>> cheers, and seeya at he upcoming conference kiddies..
>> come to my and AJ's panel session and have an input to improve our
>> service to county clients...or just to say gday!
>> Kent.
>> (my vegie patch is now doin well ...YAY!).
>>
>> Kent Beveridge
>> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
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>> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen
>> [rgesthuizen at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 October 2010 4:31 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software
>>
>> It will save schools spending thousands. The reality is that there is
>> no free lunch, the tax payer still pays. I guess that we should be
>> mindful and respectful of this. Statewide software purchases could
>> just as easily work by tagging the grants and allowing local users to
>> choose.
>>
>> Please, I don't want to rain on the party but I am forever suspicious
>> of when peter may be pinched to pay for paul. The economics of supply
>> and demand is quirky with software. Double the sales does not really
>> double the supply costs. It is more about market share and placement,
>> a battleground that should never eclipse good teaching and great
>> schooling.
>>
>> Regards Roland
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
>> <mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
>>
>> But the new image will contain Adobe CS5! That's the nifty bit;
>> it will save us thousands.
>>
>> On 6 October 2010 09:24, Mann, Warrick D
>> <Mann.Warrick.D at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> <mailto:Mann.Warrick.D at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
>>
>> I believe we edit the edustar image to get what we want out
>> of it add drivers etc and add Adobe CS3
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Warrick
>>
>> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
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>> <mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Hutchison, Geoffrey G
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:07 AM
>>
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>> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software
>>
>> Not so great.
>>
>> Our experience is that the eduSTAR image is only good for
>> Lenovo laptops. Installing on other machines, notebook or
>> desktop, has resulted in configuration problems = unstable.
>>
>> We continue to build our own images; I have yet to find a
>> DEECD image that is acceptable/stable/functional.
>>
>> Doubt it will change. L
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Geoff Hutchison,
>>
>> IT Manager/Coordinator,
>>
>> McGuire College,
>>
>> Shepparton, Vic
>>
>> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
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>> <mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *Mark
>> KELLY
>> *Sent:* Monday, 4 October 2010 3:23 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software
>>
>> My techie discovered this interesting link
>>
>> http://wiki.doe.wan/index.php/Purchasing_Software_for_Schools
>>
>> which says DEECD schools will be getting Adobe CS5 for free
>> soon on the Edustar Win7 version 3a image.
>>
>> Goodo!
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>> Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager
>> McKinnon Secondary College
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>> Mark Kelly
>> Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager
>> McKinnon Secondary College
>> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
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