[Year 12 IT Apps] A day is a long time in Education

George Ciotti ciotti.george.w at edumail.vic.gov.au
Mon May 17 10:52:07 EST 2010


Thanks Kevork.

Cheers
George Ciotti  

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On 5/16/10 12:53 AM, "Kevork Krozian" <K.Krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>  
>  I am just empathising with all these rising stress levels out there .  So, I
> hope this will make you feel a great deal better.
>  
> Having not taught IT apps in the current study design cycle I have been asked
> to step in starting next week to take over an IT Apps class.
>  Ok , now for the hard part. Where do I start ? Surely I have been reading all
> the posts over the last 3 years on this list. Well there is reading and then
> there is reading.
>  
> In the last few days I have reread every post since late 2006 through the
> archives and looked at every file posted. It took about 12 hours ­ give or
> take -  to step through about 6000 posts.
> In that time I have begun to extract some serious information about the
> current issues regarding SAC32 ( I will have to go back to SAC31 as a revision
> task ).
>  
> Here is what I have found so far:
>  
> 1.       I have posted every SAC32 shared on the lists as well as every
> contribution related to preparation for SAC32.
> 
> a.       There are around 5 contributions of actual practice SACs or
> activities to prepare students for SAC32 under Resources on the IT Apps link
> at Edulists
> 
> b.      There are 6 actual SACs contributed by your kind and considerate
> colleagues. These are under the SACs section of the IT Apps link ( password
> needed ­ apply at www.edulists.com.au <http://www.edulists.com.au> ).
> 
> 2.       Harry Schlanger has kindly contributed a wiki, a readme and a guide,
> that can be incorporated in the web site of the prototype of SAC32 called
> Tiddlywiki posted under Resources as above in 1(a).
> 
> 3.       All the software functions for each SAC are listed through the link
> to the VCAA site but more importantly not ALL of these need to be shown in
> each SAC for assessment. A selection representing the majority should be
> assessed based on what the teacher is comfortable assessing.
> 
> 4.       There is useful feedback outlining the success or otherwise of SACs
> audited or checked  by the state reviewers. Again the report is linked through
> the IT Apps site.
> 
> 5.       There are many helpful comments and offers of support from a large
> number of teachers to make life easier for others.
> 
> 6.       There are a number of teachers needing more help as they may be first
> year in IT Apps even if experienced otherwise in IT or in other methods.
> 
>  
> So, in conclusion I join all those who are truly doing their level best to
> give their students every chance to maximise their results this year.
>  
> I look forward to your help and offer mine in return as we navigate this year
> together.
>  
> Kind Regards
>  
>  
> Kevork Krozian
> Edulists Creator Administrator
> www.edulists.com.au
> tel: 0419 356 034
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of George Ciotti
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 3:59 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Robert Hind
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] sac2
>  
> With all due respect, what you¹re effectively saying is that after all your
> experience you wont provide Andrew with one of your SACs? Or one of the SACs
> that you may have gotten from someone else in the past and successfully used
> in your class? 
> I would give you one of mine if I had one Andrew but I am in the same boat as
> other first year ITA teachers. It seems to me that SACs that others have used
> successfully in the past or indeed are using currently are few and far
> between. Not any on the VITTA unless you¹re doing the Software SAC, heaps of
> those!
> 
> The big question is why? I would have thought that by now there would/should
> be plenty. How many ITA teachers are there out there?
> 
> If you don¹t mind Andrew, I wouldn¹t mind looking at the ones you have.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> George Ciotti
> 
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> The University High School
> 77 Story Street, Parkville, Vic, 3052, Australia
> Ph: (03) 9347 2022
> mobile: 0412934782
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/12/10 11:53 AM, "Robert Hind" <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
> Hi Andrew!
> 
> We've all been down the same road. First time teaching the subject. Not sure
> exactly what the study design means! Am I doing the right thing? What help can
> I get? Where can I get it?
> 
> That is where the ITApps list really helps. You can ask for help and usually
> get it.
> 
> I was teaching IT when the VCE started. We had CATs - and now SACs. Those of
> us teaching at that time had to develop our own CATs and SACs - especially in
> non-metropolitan schools, where I was teaching at that time, as we had no
> local support. The whole Edulists did not exist and there were no commercially
> available resources. I am now retired from full time teaching.
> 
> So what am I saying to you?
> 
> Don't agonise too much about this SAC. You have two examples already - so,
> unless you are not happy with either of them, go with one of those. Modify of
> course to suit your students and the software you and they are using.
> 
> The SAC has to allow students to demonstrate the required skills- see the VCAA
> Assessment Handbook for ITApps at
> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/InfoTechHB_2007.doc
> <http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/InfoTechHB_2007.doc>
>  
> Then really all you have to do is rank the students in order of their ability
> to satisfy the requirements for the SAC. The moderation of the internal
> assessments via the exam marks takes care of assessment differences between
> schools/teachers.
> 
> Good luck with SAC 2
> 
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM (Thanks Kent!)
> Ashwood and Traralgon
> robert at yinnar.com
> 
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Townsley, Andrew A" <townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
> <mailto:townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> >
> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List" <itapps at edulists.com.au
> <mailto:itapps at edulists.com.au> >
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] sac2
> 
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > I am after another SAC for outcome 2. I have 2 already and really would
>> like to see another if possible.
>> > 
>> > A.Townsley
>> > townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> <mailto:townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>> > Fountain Gate SC
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> <mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au> on behalf of Jackson Bates
>> > Sent: Tue 11/05/2010 11:16 AM
>> > To: itapps at edulists.com.au <mailto:itapps at edulists.com.au>
>> > Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] U3O2 - Ok to code entirely in Notepad?
>> > 
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > This is probably a dumb question, but if a pupil is proficient in html
>> > and css, can they create their prototype website in Notepad (or Vym, or
>> > Notepad++ etc). I know the task must be completed using appropriate
>> > software that can create a website, but does that include something as
>> > simple as a text editor or must they use Dreamweaver or another WYSIWYG
>> > type of editor?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Cheers,
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Jackson Bates
>> > 
>> > Waverley Christian College
>> > 
>> > 
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