[Year 12 IT Apps] IT APP - post mortem of multiple choice
questions - Mark and Bobby
Mark Kelly
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Thu Nov 12 08:35:35 EST 2009
Chattrath, Divinderjit S wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Thanks for correcting question 5
>
> I was wrong regarding question 20
> it is option A =lag time
>
> Regarding question 16
> it is not option C =an OAS
> i am suggesting that it is option A = an info managment system
> since worker is keying in data regarding the problem
"an info managment system" does not exist in the textbook, even when
spelled properly. I believe it's trying to tempt kids who misunderstand
MIS (Management Info System).
> you have said it is option D = a decision support system (I disagree)
> since they are used to make strategic decisions
My mother always told me that DSS is used at the tactical level. EIS
(Executive Info System) is used strategically.
>
> Regards
> Divinderjit Singh Chattrath ...........Bobby.......................
> IT & Maths Teacher, Craigieburn Secondary College
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> 1. Re: ITA exam post mortem (Mark Kelly)
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> 3. Re: IT APP exam - Post mortem of MARK KELLY's exam post
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> From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ITA exam post mortem
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> Thanks for the kind words, Ross.
>
> I'm fighting the temptation to play merrily with terms like "evacuate"
> and "bowel movement".
>
> hehehehe. Better send before I lose the battle...
>
> Regards
> Mark
>
> Ross Algie wrote:
>> Agreed.
>> Perhaps ICT specialists aren't too literate?
>> And who would NOT use named ranges in Excel?
>> And; I believe your wonderfully resourceful website lampoons the use of If
>> functions. They have their place, but they're NOT the be all and end all of
>> spreadsheet design.
>> Overall, not a bad examination paper albeit with poor word use (evacuate- a
>> synonym for bowel movement?] and sentence structure.
>> Cheers & good luck for our clients who were confronted with this paper.
>> [PERT Charts?]
>> Ross Algie
>> Mooroopna Secondary College
>>
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>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
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>>
>> http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au/vceit/postmortems/2009ita/index.htm
>>
>> * Too easy.
>> * Really bad grammar.
>>
>> * Really amateur IT usage:
>> - using spreadsheets (and presumably mail merge) for printing
>> individual delivery slips?
>> - Using $column$row cell referencing instead of cell/range naming?
>>
>> * Repetitive: test data and IF constructs appear more than once.
>>
>> Hmphh.
>>
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> From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT APP Exam discussion ... TO THE POINT
> ANSWERS plz
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> > please stop beating around the bush like saying this was confussing
> and that was easy
> > just give TO THE POINT answers and then we can start the discussion
>
> It's an interesting assumption that that VCAA exam questions are clear
> and unambiguous, and that the answers are straightforward...
> There is, as you will find, more to an ITA exam than that.
>
> It's one thing I have trouble inculcating in my students each year.
>
> Regards
> Mark
>
> Chattrath, Divinderjit S wrote:
>> Hi, I have solved half question paper, I will post the later half by tomorrow
>> please stop beating around the bush like saying this was confussing and that was easy
>> just give TO THE POINT answers and then we can start the discussion
>> My First year of teaching IT APP
>> OK HERE I GO
>> Answers to Multiple Choice questions
>>
>> 1. D
>> 2. A
>> 3. D
>> 4. A
>> 5. B
>> 6. C
>> 7. C
>> 8. B
>> 9. A
>> 10. D
>> 11. A
>> 12. B
>> 13. D
>> 14. C
>> 15. A
>> 16. A
>> 17. B
>> 18. B
>> 19. C
>> 20. B
>>
>> Answers to SHORT ANSWER questions
>>
>> 1. a. Primary key
>>
>> b. Incremental or differential
>>
>> 2. a. input = Quantity, cost
>>
>> process = Quantity * Cost
>> b. i.) quantity and cost
>> ii.) total
>>
>> 3. a. Password
>>
>> b. Parents' consent and Relevence
>>
>> 4. a. //reports/2009/finance/
>>
>> b. i.) //Images/2009/support/netball
>> ii.) Because these are photos (images) associated with netball which is a. sport and it is for the year 2009
>> c. 1.) Open file winners.doc and Save it as a file winnersNEW.doc
>> 2.) Now you can make changes, add new data and save file
>> 2.) Send this file winnersNEW.doc as email attachment to the coaches
>> d. i.) Should have an ADD NEW COMMENT BOX to add new info
>> ii.) Since all the comments are visible to all the members of the virtual team hence the accuracy of the information is assured.
>>
>> 5. i.) firewall: Protects from unauthorised access
>>
>> weakness: Once breached there is nothing else to protect the data
>> ii) Encryption: Info converted to senseless data using an algorithm which is to be decrypted using the reverse algorithm to get the info back in original form
>> weakness: it is totally dependent on the security of the algorithm. Anyone who gets the algorithm will be able to access all information
>>
>> 6. a. Mockup give quick LOOK and FEEL of the website so that changes can be made according to customer
>>
>> b. flow chart (diamond box)
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Divinderjit Singh Chattrath ...........Bobby.......................
>> IT & Maths Teacher, Craigieburn Secondary College
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>> From: "Bane, Janet A" <bane.janet.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
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>> Ok,
>>
>> I'll start the ball rolling. I thought the multiple choice section was pretty easy - Q1 just plain silly! (gee I'm glad I sat through a whole year of ITA so I could answer that one.)
>>
>> Then we get to Q 7 & 8, 9 12 - again, way too easy.
>>
>> Q19 - evacuation procedures for back up files? Does this mean that someone marches off with the backup files if the building is evacuated? This kind of assumes they were dumb enough to store it in the same location originally. Or have I missed something here and its just one of those cunning distractors?
>>
>> short answer: Q3b - list two things...... pretty vague - are they talking ethical considerations? legal issues? technical constraints? or is it just open ended and pretty much anything is OK.
>>
>> Q4 - nice to see the wiki get a mention
>>
>> Q5,6,7,8 pretty straight forward.
>>
>> Q9 - I had trouble with the term layout being used in this context. If you look up "design elements" in the textbook, it refers to Proportion, orientation, clarity & consistency, colour & contrast. This is what the kids learnt. I think the term layout would have made them uncertain as to which one to discuss. Similarly with relevance - not really a design element, but rather a property of a good interface. I would be interested to know what others think about this question.
>>
>> Q10 - the Pert chart strikes back!
>>
>> Q11 - a(i) and (ii) and (b) - more suitable for a junior maths class.
>> (c) - more at the level I would expect of a VCE student
>> (d) - obviously kids need more practice (after last year's storyboard) in designing products
>> (e) - ethics - interesting question and much better worded than last year's! It should make them think (a bit).
>>
>> Q12 - very easy. Although I suspect my lesser students still don't know how to do a vlookup or an if statement (even after all my best efforts - sigh!) . I can't remember if we did a specific task on sheet referencing (suspect not), but some of the better students might get 12 (c). 12(d) seems to demand a bar or column chart for easy comparison of monthly petrol expense, 12(e) could be achieved by making a macro or using mail merge.
>>
>> So all in all, not too many gripes (except for Q9). Most of my kids seemed pretty happy with their efforts. As an exam I would rate it about 8/10 what do others think???
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>> Janet Bane
>> Patterson River SC
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>> From: "Laurie Savage" <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>
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>> An oldie, but a goodie and right on the money!
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>> Laurie Savage
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>> I reckon by my first look at the qns...its going to make for a wide spread on the Bell curve this year...!
>> Some interesting wording and phrasology of a few questions.
>>
>> Oh, heck..if it was easy everyone would do it! (oh, oops, I thought that's why students chose it ....the 'easy' option!!).
>>
>> Good challenging paper!
>>
>> Kent.
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>> Ok,
>>
>> I'll start the ball rolling. I thought the multiple choice section was pretty easy - Q1 just plain silly! (gee I'm glad I sat through a whole year of ITA so I could answer that one.)
>>
>> Then we get to Q 7 & 8, 9 12 - again, way too easy.
>>
>> Q19 - evacuation procedures for back up files? Does this mean that someone marches off with the backup files if the building is evacuated? This kind of assumes they were dumb enough to store it in the same location originally. Or have I missed something here and its just one of those cunning distractors?
>>
>> short answer: Q3b - list two things...... pretty vague - are they talking ethical considerations? legal issues? technical constraints? or is it just open ended and pretty much anything is OK.
>>
>> Q4 - nice to see the wiki get a mention
>>
>> Q5,6,7,8 pretty straight forward.
>>
>> Q9 - I had trouble with the term layout being used in this context. If you look up "design elements" in the textbook, it refers to Proportion, orientation, clarity & consistency, colour & contrast. This is what the kids learnt. I think the term layout would have made them uncertain as to which one to discuss. Similarly with relevance - not really a design element, but rather a property of a good interface. I would be interested to know what others think about this question.
>>
>> Q10 - the Pert chart strikes back!
>>
>> Q11 - a(i) and (ii) and (b) - more suitable for a junior maths class.
>> (c) - more at the level I would expect of a VCE student
>> (d) - obviously kids need more practice (after last year's storyboard) in designing products
>> (e) - ethics - interesting question and much better worded than last year's! It should make them think (a bit).
>>
>> Q12 - very easy. Although I suspect my lesser students still don't know how to do a vlookup or an if statement (even after all my best efforts - sigh!) . I can't remember if we did a specific task on sheet referencing (suspect not), but some of the better students might get 12 (c). 12(d) seems to demand a bar or column chart for easy comparison of monthly petrol expense, 12(e) could be achieved by making a macro or using mail merge.
>>
>> So all in all, not too many gripes (except for Q9). Most of my kids seemed pretty happy with their efforts. As an exam I would rate it about 8/10 what do others think???
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>> Janet Bane
>> Patterson River SC
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> From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT APP exam - Post mortem of MARK
> KELLY's exam post mortem
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> Hi Bobby. Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Chattrath, Divinderjit S wrote:
>> Hi Mark Kelly, Either one of us has got three questions wrong ... I would love to discuss questions
>> Q 5 = B ( your answer= A)
>
>> My explanation: a storyboard does show complete relationship between all pages of a website. I never used flow charts to define relationships between pages of a website.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out. It was a typo that I thought I'd fixed
> early this morning. The explanation describes why option A is not
> right. I've fixed it.
>
>> Q 16 = A ( your answer= D)
>> My explanation: decision support sytem is used by top level for tactical descisions. We are talking about a worker helping a caller. The computer is providing a prioritsed list of suggestions. So I felt it has an element of office automation and has got lot to do with information management as worker is also keying in the details of each problem. In no way is this a decision support system even if all data is someway or other used to make decisions in the end.
>
> Disagree. If it's an OAS, what manual process would this electronic
> system be replacing?
>
>
>> Q 20 = B ( your answer= A)
>> My explanation: 10 days of delay is before the task Y so it is the lead time of task Y and that was the question. Note that it is lag time of task X.
>
> Disagree. Lag time is a delay on the successor. Lead time is an early
> start for a successor.
>
>> Regards
>> Divinderjit Singh Chattrath ...........Bobby.......................
>> IT & Maths Teacher, Craigieburn Secondary College
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>> 3. RE: ITA exam post mortem (Mark Scott)
>> 4. RE: ITA exam post mortem (Ross Algie)
>> 5. IT APP Exam discussion ... TO THE POINT ANSWERS plz
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>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:34:20 +1100
>> From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] What the customer wants....
>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
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>> Should be in the new study design...
>>
>> Laurie Savage wrote:
>>> An oldie, but a goodie and right on the money!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laurie Savage
>>>
>>> PVGC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>> On Behalf Of Anderson, Stuart L
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 11:53 AM
>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] What the customer wants....
>>>
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>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>> Manager - Information Systems
>> McKinnon Secondary College
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>> Why do people mis-spell 'grammar' and mispronounce 'pronuniciation'?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:45:33 +1100
>> From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] ITA exam post mortem
>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
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>> http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au/vceit/postmortems/2009ita/index.htm
>>
>> * Too easy.
>> * Really bad grammar.
>>
>> * Really amateur IT usage:
>> - using spreadsheets (and presumably mail merge) for printing
>> individual delivery slips?
>> - Using $column$row cell referencing instead of cell/range naming?
>>
>> * Repetitive: test data and IF constructs appear more than once.
>>
>> Hmphh.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>> Manager - Information Systems
>> McKinnon Secondary College
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>> Why do people mis-spell 'grammar' and mispronounce 'pronuniciation'?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:57:03 +1100
>> From: Mark Scott <msc at luther.vic.edu.au>
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] ITA exam post mortem
>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
>> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
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>> I wonder if anybody would be interested in working out the percenatges for different Outcomes.
>>
>> This exam seemed a bit heavy on the Spreadsheets and Databases.
>>
>> Mark Scott
>> Luther College
>>
>> PS Couldn't find a mistake in your solutions, the exam must have been too easy :-)
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly [kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:45 PM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] ITA exam post mortem
>>
>> http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au/vceit/postmortems/2009ita/index.htm
>>
>> * Too easy.
>> * Really bad grammar.
>>
>> * Really amateur IT usage:
>> - using spreadsheets (and presumably mail merge) for printing
>> individual delivery slips?
>> - Using $column$row cell referencing instead of cell/range naming?
>>
>> * Repetitive: test data and IF constructs appear more than once.
>>
>> Hmphh.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>> Manager - Information Systems
>> McKinnon Secondary College
>> kel AT mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
>> McKinnon Rd, McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
>> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085 Fax +613 9578 9253
>>
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>> Moderator: IT Applications Mailing List
>>
>> Why do people mis-spell 'grammar' and mispronounce 'pronuniciation'?
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:07:44 +1100
>> From: "Ross Algie" <ralgie at mcmedia.com.au>
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] ITA exam post mortem
>> To: "'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'"
>> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
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>>
>> Agreed.
>> Perhaps ICT specialists aren't too literate?
>> And who would NOT use named ranges in Excel?
>> And; I believe your wonderfully resourceful website lampoons the use of If
>> functions. They have their place, but they're NOT the be all and end all of
>> spreadsheet design.
>> Overall, not a bad examination paper albeit with poor word use (evacuate- a
>> synonym for bowel movement?] and sentence structure.
>> Cheers & good luck for our clients who were confronted with this paper.
>> [PERT Charts?]
>> Ross Algie
>> Mooroopna Secondary College
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 6:46 PM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] ITA exam post mortem
>>
>> http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au/vceit/postmortems/2009ita/index.htm
>>
>> * Too easy.
>> * Really bad grammar.
>>
>> * Really amateur IT usage:
>> - using spreadsheets (and presumably mail merge) for printing
>> individual delivery slips?
>> - Using $column$row cell referencing instead of cell/range naming?
>>
>> * Repetitive: test data and IF constructs appear more than once.
>>
>> Hmphh.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>> Manager - Information Systems
>> McKinnon Secondary College
>> kel AT mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
>> McKinnon Rd, McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
>> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085 Fax +613 9578 9253
>>
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>>
>> Why do people mis-spell 'grammar' and mispronounce 'pronuniciation'?
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:14:57 +1100
>> From: "Chattrath, Divinderjit S"
>> <chattrath.divinderjit.s at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT APP Exam discussion ... TO THE POINT
>> ANSWERS plz
>> To: <itapps at edulists.com.au>
>> Cc: "Chattrath, Divinderjit S"
>> <chattrath.divinderjit.s at edumail.vic.gov.au>
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>> Hi, I have solved half question paper, I will post the later half by tomorrow
>> please stop beating around the bush like saying this was confussing and that was easy
>> just give TO THE POINT answers and then we can start the discussion
>> My First year of teaching IT APP
>> OK HERE I GO
>> Answers to Multiple Choice questions
>>
>> 1. D
>> 2. A
>> 3. D
>> 4. A
>> 5. B
>> 6. C
>> 7. C
>> 8. B
>> 9. A
>> 10. D
>> 11. A
>> 12. B
>> 13. D
>> 14. C
>> 15. A
>> 16. A
>> 17. B
>> 18. B
>> 19. C
>> 20. B
>>
>> Answers to SHORT ANSWER questions
>>
>> 1. a. Primary key
>>
>> b. Incremental or differential
>>
>> 2. a. input = Quantity, cost
>>
>> process = Quantity * Cost
>> b. i.) quantity and cost
>> ii.) total
>>
>> 3. a. Password
>>
>> b. Parents' consent and Relevence
>>
>> 4. a. //reports/2009/finance/
>>
>> b. i.) //Images/2009/support/netball
>> ii.) Because these are photos (images) associated with netball which is a. sport and it is for the year 2009
>> c. 1.) Open file winners.doc and Save it as a file winnersNEW.doc
>> 2.) Now you can make changes, add new data and save file
>> 2.) Send this file winnersNEW.doc as email attachment to the coaches
>> d. i.) Should have an ADD NEW COMMENT BOX to add new info
>> ii.) Since all the comments are visible to all the members of the virtual team hence the accuracy of the information is assured.
>>
>> 5. i.) firewall: Protects from unauthorised access
>>
>> weakness: Once breached there is nothing else to protect the data
>> ii) Encryption: Info converted to senseless data using an algorithm which is to be decrypted using the reverse algorithm to get the info back in original form
>> weakness: it is totally dependent on the security of the algorithm. Anyone who gets the algorithm will be able to access all information
>>
>> 6. a. Mockup give quick LOOK and FEEL of the website so that changes can be made according to customer
>>
>> b. flow chart (diamond box)
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Divinderjit Singh Chattrath ...........Bobby.......................
>> IT & Maths Teacher, Craigieburn Secondary College
>> E: chattrath.divinderjit.s at edumail.vic.gov.au W: www.chattrath.com <http://www.chattrath.com/>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:52:31 +1100
>> From: "Anderson, Stuart L" <anderson.stuart.l at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] What the customer wants....
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>> http://www.dlevel.com/blogs/alex/images/software_development.jpg
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>> - Stuart Anderson, Kambrya College
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>> From: "Bane, Janet A" <bane.janet.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] time for some exam discussion
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>> Ok,
>>
>> I'll start the ball rolling. I thought the multiple choice section was pretty easy - Q1 just plain silly! (gee I'm glad I sat through a whole year of ITA so I could answer that one.)
>>
>> Then we get to Q 7 & 8, 9 12 - again, way too easy.
>>
>> Q19 - evacuation procedures for back up files? Does this mean that someone marches off with the backup files if the building is evacuated? This kind of assumes they were dumb enough to store it in the same location originally. Or have I missed something here and its just one of those cunning distractors?
>>
>> short answer: Q3b - list two things...... pretty vague - are they talking ethical considerations? legal issues? technical constraints? or is it just open ended and pretty much anything is OK.
>>
>> Q4 - nice to see the wiki get a mention
>>
>> Q5,6,7,8 pretty straight forward.
>>
>> Q9 - I had trouble with the term layout being used in this context. If you look up "design elements" in the textbook, it refers to Proportion, orientation, clarity & consistency, colour & contrast. This is what the kids learnt. I think the term layout would have made them uncertain as to which one to discuss. Similarly with relevance - not really a design element, but rather a property of a good interface. I would be interested to know what others think about this question.
>>
>> Q10 - the Pert chart strikes back!
>>
>> Q11 - a(i) and (ii) and (b) - more suitable for a junior maths class.
>> (c) - more at the level I would expect of a VCE student
>> (d) - obviously kids need more practice (after last year's storyboard) in designing products
>> (e) - ethics - interesting question and much better worded than last year's! It should make them think (a bit).
>>
>> Q12 - very easy. Although I suspect my lesser students still don't know how to do a vlookup or an if statement (even after all my best efforts - sigh!) . I can't remember if we did a specific task on sheet referencing (suspect not), but some of the better students might get 12 (c). 12(d) seems to demand a bar or column chart for easy comparison of monthly petrol expense, 12(e) could be achieved by making a macro or using mail merge.
>>
>> So all in all, not too many gripes (except for Q9). Most of my kids seemed pretty happy with their efforts. As an exam I would rate it about 8/10 what do others think???
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>> Janet Bane
>> Patterson River SC
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>> From: "Laurie Savage" <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] What the customer wants....
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>> An oldie, but a goodie and right on the money!
>>
>>
>>
>> Laurie Savage
>>
>> PVGC
>>
>>
>>
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Anderson, Stuart L
>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 11:53 AM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] What the customer wants....
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.dlevel.com/blogs/alex/images/software_development.jpg
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: "Kent Beveridge" <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au>
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] time for some exam discussion
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>> I reckon by my first look at the qns...its going to make for a wide spread on the Bell curve this year...!
>> Some interesting wording and phrasology of a few questions.
>>
>> Oh, heck..if it was easy everyone would do it! (oh, oops, I thought that's why students chose it ....the 'easy' option!!).
>>
>> Good challenging paper!
>>
>> Kent.
>>
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>> Sent: Wed 11/11/2009 11:36 AM
>> To: ITA List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] time for some exam discussion
>>
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> I'll start the ball rolling. I thought the multiple choice section was pretty easy - Q1 just plain silly! (gee I'm glad I sat through a whole year of ITA so I could answer that one.)
>>
>> Then we get to Q 7 & 8, 9 12 - again, way too easy.
>>
>> Q19 - evacuation procedures for back up files? Does this mean that someone marches off with the backup files if the building is evacuated? This kind of assumes they were dumb enough to store it in the same location originally. Or have I missed something here and its just one of those cunning distractors?
>>
>> short answer: Q3b - list two things...... pretty vague - are they talking ethical considerations? legal issues? technical constraints? or is it just open ended and pretty much anything is OK.
>>
>> Q4 - nice to see the wiki get a mention
>>
>> Q5,6,7,8 pretty straight forward.
>>
>> Q9 - I had trouble with the term layout being used in this context. If you look up "design elements" in the textbook, it refers to Proportion, orientation, clarity & consistency, colour & contrast. This is what the kids learnt. I think the term layout would have made them uncertain as to which one to discuss. Similarly with relevance - not really a design element, but rather a property of a good interface. I would be interested to know what others think about this question.
>>
>> Q10 - the Pert chart strikes back!
>>
>> Q11 - a(i) and (ii) and (b) - more suitable for a junior maths class.
>> (c) - more at the level I would expect of a VCE student
>> (d) - obviously kids need more practice (after last year's storyboard) in designing products
>> (e) - ethics - interesting question and much better worded than last year's! It should make them think (a bit).
>>
>> Q12 - very easy. Although I suspect my lesser students still don't know how to do a vlookup or an if statement (even after all my best efforts - sigh!) . I can't remember if we did a specific task on sheet referencing (suspect not), but some of the better students might get 12 (c). 12(d) seems to demand a bar or column chart for easy comparison of monthly petrol expense, 12(e) could be achieved by making a macro or using mail merge.
>>
>> So all in all, not too many gripes (except for Q9). Most of my kids seemed pretty happy with their efforts. As an exam I would rate it about 8/10 what do others think???
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