[Year 12 IT Apps] The new PSM

Mark Kelly kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Wed Aug 19 19:23:17 EST 2009


One thought acceptance testing can be a part of formal testing, did one  :-)

Timmer-Arends wrote:
> One should not confuse 'formal testing' with 'acceptance testing'
> 
> Regards
> Robert T-A
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kelly" <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
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> 
>> Well, as I understand it, "Formal Testing" does not have the same 
>> purpose as informal testing.
>>
>> Formal testing verifies that the customer's expectations have been 
>> satisfied, rather than just proving that the output is accurate.
>>
>> Mark Scott wrote:
>>>  Surely if you are testing (and making changes) then the product is 
>>> not finished and hence still in development.
>>>
>>> Mark Scott
>>> Luther College
>>>
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>>> Mark Scott wrote:
>>>>  Testing is in the development stage (where it should be).
>>>
>>> Informal testing occurs during development.  Formal testing occurs 
>>> after the product is finished (e.g. acceptance testing) to prove it 
>>> fulfils the specifications laid down during analysis.
>>>
>>> At least that's what my ol' mum used to tell me when I were a wee lad.
>>>
>>>> Implementation is missing but it could be argued that this is a 
>>>> problem solving methodology and not SDLC
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what "validating" is doing under development.
>>>>
>>>> Surely electronic validation is covered under Manipulating (coding).
>>>>
>>>> And as a lone voice I think the extra is outcome could be useful to 
>>>> students. The outcome seems to focus on the differences between 
>>>> Spreadsheets and Databases.
>>>> Mark Scott
>>>> Luther College
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
>>>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:46 AM
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>>>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] The new PSM
>>>>
>>>> The new study design has a new model for the Problem Solving 
>>>> Methodology:
>>>>
>>>> "For the purposes of this study design the methodology comprises four
>>>> stages: analysing, designing, developing and evaluating."
>>>>
>>>> First we had the ADDTDIE model, then ADDTIE, now ADDE.
>>>>
>>>> I can see why documentation might be subsumed into Development, but 
>>>> I'm curious why formal Testing and Implementation have been 
>>>> removed.  They haven't even been subsumed into remaining phases.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Mark Kelly
>>>> Manager - Information Systems
>>>> McKinnon Secondary College
>>>> kel AT mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Mark Kelly
>> Manager - Information Systems
>> McKinnon Secondary College
>> kel AT mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
>> McKinnon Rd, McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
>> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085 Fax +613 9578 9253
>>
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-- 
Mark Kelly
Manager - Information Systems
McKinnon Secondary College
kel AT mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
McKinnon Rd, McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085 Fax +613 9578 9253

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