[Year 12 IT Apps] Qats ITA
Mark Kelly
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Fri Sep 5 14:18:07 EST 2008
While I can't speak about the tasks, I've heard the author is a
broad-shouldered, square-jawed, flaxen-haired Adonis before whom women
swoon and men cower in envy; a veritable saint, and truly wonderful,
wonderful person.
Schultz, Gary I wrote:
> Quality assessment tasks for ITA units 3 & 4
> l have not seem them mentioned on this site, are they very useful? I
> have only been a member of this site for the last couple of months,
> please excuse my ignorance.
>
> Gary Schultz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Denny, Chris Z
> Sent: Friday, 5 September 2008 10:51 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] From the Administrator -- OT: Rudd Money
> andOffTopic discussion
>
> I agree with a number of other subscribers that this list is often an
> invaluable resources for all areas of ICT not just IT applications. I
> have been teaching for over 20 years and have been teaching IPM/IT Apps
> since 1992 except for a year when I worked as a systems admin. I very
> much appreciate the work that both Kevork and Mark do on the list. I too
> have strayed off the topic at times, but have always found other
> teachers very generous with their advice and very tolerant of my
> divergent rantings. I know what it was like to try and teach a course
> like this without the list, and life was much more difficult then.
>
> I would appreciate the continued tolerance of off topic subjects at
> times because there are normally a number of people with the same
> question and it is probably the easiest and most effective forum for
> discussion of these subjects.
>
> So keep up your brilliant work Kevork and Mark, there is one old chalky
> here who very much appreciates this resource.
>
> Chris Denny
> ICT Co-ordinator
> Trafalgar High School
> Phone (03) 56331733
> Fax (03) 56332378
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
> Sent: Friday, 5 September 2008 8:37 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] From the Administrator -- OT: Rudd Money and
> OffTopic discussion
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
>
> Fortunately or otherwise since its inception and earlier incarnation as
> "ipm", the "itapps" list has become the "go to" list for anything and
> everything any IT teacher experiences in education.
>
> I have always intended Edulists to serve teachers rather than the
> other
> way around. However, there are responsibilities that come with using a
> mailing list specifically related to a subject - in this case IT
> applications Units 3 and 4.
>
> It is nice to share details of a good day or a bad day or an
> indifferent
> day as I hope we consider each other colleagues working closely.
> Sometimes
> this does stray into off topic material and can dilute the mailing list
> and
> annoy or irritate teachers of IT Apps. Not all of these people are IT
> coordinators, or timetablers or reporting coordinators or laptop School
> Nominated Representatives(SNR) , or in government schools for that
> matter...
> As a sad personal note, our last IT apps class was in 2004 and for
> the
> first time since the VCE, there is to be no Software Development in
> 2009.
> So, I should not need to remain on the IT Apps list but choose to do so
> as there
> is much discussion outside of IT Apps I don't want to miss due to the
> way the list has been used.
>
> For the lists to survive we all need to :
> 1. allow some slack for genuine mistakes
> 2. redirect posts to the right list through gentle reminders if
> they
> are genuinely off topic
> 3. encourage everyone to post without fear of having their heads
> bitten off
> 4. support the moderator ( Mark Kelly ) who does a brilliant job
> 5. get the admin ( Kevork Krozian ) to periodically post info
> about
> other lists so people can be made aware of them and encouraged to join.
> 6. agree we can never please everybody all the time and no system
> is
> perfect
> 7. remind each other of netiquette guidelines found at
> www.edulists.com.au , netiquette link.
> 8 . take care we don't get a high "chaff to wheat" ratio by
> hijacking
> the itapps list for all IT and other issues.
> 9. any other suggestions ......
>
>
> Any objections or comments regarding this ?
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kevork Krozian
> IT Manager , Forest Hill College
> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
> http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
> Mobile: 0419 356 034
>
>>>> Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> 4/09/2008 10:19 am >>>
> Hi Adrian. I'm sympathetic - I go OT myself occasionally because this
> is where most of the people are - but lengthy OT threads do pollute the
> purpose of the list, and they do annoy people.
>
> I don't mind deleting the occasional OT, but when they drown out
> legitimate postings they kill the reason for coming here. People are
> here because the list is useful to their ITA needs. Reduce that
> usefulness, and people leave.
>
> Usenet has long known this problem, and the only Usenet groups that tend
>
> to thrive nowadays are the moderated ones.
>
> I've maintained a loose hold on the reins here, allowing minor and brief
>
> OT threads, especially if topics are hot and urgent (e.g. reporting or
> Rudd at certain times). But continuous OT is a different matter.
>
> At the risk of sparking an OT flood, what do Kevork and other people
> here think?
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
> Adrian Janson wrote:
>> Hi Mark (and all),
>>
>> Can I suggest a compromise?
>>
>> The last thing that I (or others) will want to do is to subscribe to a
> dozen
>> more lists based on topics that are the topics of the moment - nor
> would I
>> really want to subscribe to an 'Off-topic' list for the reasons you
> have
>> stated. This community is so well established that I feel it is
> entirely
>> reasonably to have this sort of discussion on this list - it's really
>> discussions about the football or the weather that are truly
> 'off-topic'.
>> If those posting off-topic use the subject header of the message to
> state
>> this clearly, then those not interested in reading the emails simply
> need to
>> press the delete key (as I sometimes do). It's a slight inconvenience
> but I
>> feel a fair one.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adrian
>>
>> Adrian Janson,
>> VITTA President
>> Director of ICT,
>> Melbourne High School,
>> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
>> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
>> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
>> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au
>> Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark Scott
>> Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 8:49 AM
>> To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>
>>
>> I am considering withdrawing from this email list because of the
> amount of
>> off-topic emails at the moment.
>>
>> I know lots of us are involved in the Ruddy money and ruddy networks
> and
>> ruddy laptops but I'm not and I'm sure lots of other ITA teachers
> aren't
>> either.
>>
>> Please take these discussions somewhere else.
>>
>> Mark Scott
>> Luther College
>> "If you don't change direction, you will probably end up where you are
>> heading." Sara Felder
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>> Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 8:02 AM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>
>> Yes. But note that the Lenovo DESKTOP _is_ part of the NSSCF panel.
>>
>> Oops. Offtopic :-(
>>
>> Kent Beveridge wrote:
>>> D'oh!...Just realised the r61 etc is part of the laptop program in
> govt
>> schools. D'oh!
>>> KB.
>>>
>>> Kent Beveridge,
>>> I.T. co-ordinator
>>> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
>>> Horsham
>>> email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>>>
>>> |<3|\|7 b3\/3r1D93 ? ;-)
>>>
>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lappin, Jason M
>>> Sent: Wed 9/3/2008 2:58 PM
>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>>
>>>
>>> List
>>> There was an email floating around a few weeks ago about problems
> with
>> Windows Media player and the new R61. Any help??
>>> Jason Lappin
>>> Year 10 Coordinator
>>> Rutherglen High School
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Stephen Digby
>>> Sent: Wed 3/09/2008 2:46 PM
>>> To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you refer me to the doc that stats this ? Just to be sure....
>>>
>>> ====================================================
>>> Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
>>> mailto: digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>> Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au
>>> Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
>>> ====================================================
>>> Short words are best and the old words when short are best of all.
>> Winston
>>> Churchill
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 2:34 PM
>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>>
>>> For those who lease, and plan to apply for Rudd money, be aware that
>>> we CANNOT lease with Rudd money. The state education dept has
> forbidden
>> it.
>>> --
>>> Mark Kelly
>
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>
>
>
--
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McKinnon Secondary College
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