[Year 12 IT Apps] RIP Rural Rescue Flights...

Thu Oct 30 15:30:14 EST 2008

Yes, it's still updating - I'll email as soon as it's back on. It's slower
than I expected.

LS

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2008 2:40 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] RIP Rural Rescue Flights...

Considering the current thread about writing and posting your own SACS, it
is my sad duty to inform those on the list of the passing of the RRF SAC, it
served well and has been the launchpad for many to use as an outcome but,
unfortunately, the time has come to retire it and to produce a new, exciting
SAC1 for the 2009 year. 
Being the creator of the original version, it is due time to retire RRF and
move on.
RIP RRF! 

Whats the new model? Who knows...even I dont know what I will conjure up
just yet...
Stay tuned listers!

(jeez I can rabbit on sometimes....)

KB.

Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Ros Meadows
Sent: Thu 10/30/2008 1:17 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: itapps Digest, Vol 44, Issue 48

Hi Margaret,
The upside is that you may get some constructive criticism and be able to
improve your SAC for the following year. I for one would love to
congratulate you just for having the guts to create your own SAC, this is
admirable!!! I am sure you will soon become a teacher we can all look up to
if you are prepared to create your own SACs in your first year of teaching!!

Good luck

Ros m
ros.meadows at gmail.com
Bentleigh Secondary Collge

Margaret McArthur wrote: 

Thank you for the advice.  

I am hesitant in posting to the VITTA site as there is always that

voice saying "is it good enough".  As a first year teacher here in

Australia (I am a Scottish teacher) I have been learning the course as I

am teaching it.  I do not feel confident enough to post it on such a

credible site.  Sending it through the email systems seems less

intimidating for me.

In future I can just send directly to teachers to overcome this

problem.

Thanks again

Margaret McArthur

The GEELONG College

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:49:47 +1100

From: "Daniel Stanley"  <mailto:Daniel.Stanley at flinders.vic.edu.au>
<Daniel.Stanley at flinders.vic.edu.au>

Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: itapps Digest, Vol 44, Issue 46

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Hi all

Is one potential solution for sensitive materials to publish a note

like

"I have a really good sample SAC some of you might like to use. 

Please

email me off list if you would like a copy."

I realise the obvious issue with this is the possibility of 100 emails

that then land in your inbox requesting the file.

Just a suggestion....

Daniel

Daniel.stanley at flinders.vic.edu.au 

Flinders CCC

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian

Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 2:35 PM

To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List

Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: itapps Digest, Vol 44, Issue 46

Hi Margaret and Maggie,

    Thanks for raising this issue as it is one that plays on the minds

of the teachers and may inhibit participation by some.

The issue with exams and other attachments is that they can be sent

directly to myself or posted on the VITTA web site which is only for

members, most if not all are teachers as far as I am aware. My email

is

on the edulists site and for the record is kevork at edulists.com.au. 

    Once again, if we are sharing resources we should always modify

them

out of professional duty of care, though I can hear some saying why

spoil a good thing if it is already just like you want it. 

    It comes down to cost/benefit of any decision or system we build

or

use.  I can only wish my students would join edulists, monitor

discussions and trawl all attachments as revision for upcoming

assessment tasks. Sadly, even with customised revision folders for

each

student containing several past exams I still find them left behind in

the room or forgotten at home. 

    We could modify the mailing lists to automatically harvest

attachments, post them to the web site and require a password to

download them but not all attachments are necessarily final exams or

other assessment materials. Is it worth the effort ? 

    I do hear what you say Margaret and as a compromise to retain open

access,  it is just a matter of using the resources slightly

differently

even if they are posted as attachments.

    Happy to continue this discussion.

Kind Regards

Kevork Krozian

IT Manager , Forest Hill College

k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au 

http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au <http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/>  

Mobile: 0419 356 034

"Maggie Iaquinto"  <mailto:IAQUIM at bialik.vic.edu.au>
<IAQUIM at bialik.vic.edu.au> 29/10/2008 12:24 pm

That particular concern has been with us all the years edulists have

been running and I reckon all teachers share that concern. I post my

exams and other assessment items to the VITTA site which needs login

credentials to view and download. Also, Kevork has posted all such

items, by the writer's request, to a password-protected section of his

website.

Maggie

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Margaret McArthur

Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 12:16 PM

To: itapps at edulists.com.au 

Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: itapps Digest, Vol 44, Issue 46

My concern is that we can pass work through this system.  For example

I

sent an exam earlier in the year that could have been used by some

schools.  Is it a good idea to have students access these attachments?

Just a concern.  

Margaret McArthur

The GEELONG College

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   2. Re: Go Girl Go for IT (Jenny Looker)

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:00:39 +1100

From: "Roland Gesthuizen"  <mailto:rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
<rgesthuizen at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Mailing lists

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I agree with the others .. keep it open. This is a public list for

educators and soap box for some. If it isnt worth saying on the front

page of The Age, it probably isnt worth saying. I reckon that most of

us

would rather be caught out asking a question from erstwhile and

esteemed

colleagues than not ask and play the ignorant fool.

Regards Roland

2008/10/28 Laurie Savage  <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au> <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>

I must agree with Kevork. I would regard my students as partners in 

learning, and if they stumble across a resource like this and can

use

it,

all the better.

Laurie

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:

itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] 

On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian

Snip ----

 How bad is it if a student sees a teacher asking a question ? or

learning

or expanding their knowledge ?

Snip ---

Kevork Krozian

IT Manager , Forest Hill College

k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au 

http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au <http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/>  

Mobile: 0419 356 034

"Robert"  <mailto:robert at yinnar.com> <robert at yinnar.com> 28/10/2008 3:46 pm
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Thanks Margaret,

We do tend to overlook some things.

We have two choices on this security issue -

either

we need to restrict access to the list messages to authorised list

members

-

don't ask me how, I'm not a security expert.

or

we must be careful what we say, so that students or other

"non-members" of

the list cannot gain any "useful" or personal infomation that we do

not

want

them to have.

Answer?

What do we want? And what is actually possible?

One of the joys of the Internet, and also one of the biggest

problems, is

the open access of information to all of us.

Where do these lists need to go?

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)

Ashwood and Traralgon

robert at yinnar.com 

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From: "Margaret McArthur"  <mailto:mmcarthur at geelongcollege.vic.edu.au>
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To:  <mailto:itapps at edulists.com.au> <itapps at edulists.com.au>

Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:21 PM

Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: itapps Digest, Vol 44, Issue 43

Can I just bring to attention to the moderator that these emails

can be

accessed by students.  One of my students did a google search and

was

able to bring up an email using my name and edulist.

How can we secure these emails?

Margaret McArthur

The GEELONG College

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From: "Jenny Looker"  <mailto:JLO at cgsc.vic.edu.au> <JLO at cgsc.vic.edu.au>

Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Go Girl Go for IT

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I would like to add my congratulations to the organisers and the many

volunteers at Go Girl, Go for IT held at Deakin Uni. My students had a

great day and were impressed by the variety and calibre of the

speakers.

Jenny Looker

Canterbury Girls Secondary College

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