[Year 12 IT Apps] HardDrive Repairs expert required

Wed Jun 11 08:34:05 EST 2008

Thanks Ros, much appreciated

Harry Schlanger

Tyrrell College, Sea Lake
Ph: (03) 5070 2106
Fax: (03) 5070 1069

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M
Sent: Sun 6/8/2008 3:59 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] HardDrive Repairs expert required

For permanently deleting data try these apps

File Shredder 2  (http://www.download.com/File-Shredder/3000-2144_4-10662831.html?tag=lst-1&cdlPid=10662832 )

Also Zilla Data Nuker 2 (http://www.download.com/Zilla-Data-Nuker/3000-2092_4-10320323.html?tag=lst-1&cdlPid=10320324 )

Free from download .com 

Remember to transfer the files to your new computer first!!

Usually when files are deleted they are not actually deleted, the space they occupy is just marked as available for writing to, which is why data that has been "deleted" can still be resurrected. Same if the HD is reimaged, not all data is "lost" and can still be retrieved.

File Shredder and Zilla Nuker work by writing garbage to the disk in place of the files, with 7 passes of this process. These apps should be used whenever you return a notebook or decide a computer has had its day and is ready to be passed on.

For old HDs which are no longer useful, ie the computer is too old or the HD too small for today's demands - the best way to protect any private, business or personal data is to physically destroy the disk (ie hammer, fire, chainsaw...lol) A great way to release some pent up tension around report time!

Cheers

Ros

Roslyn Meadows
Head of ICT Implementation

Head of Assessment and Reporting
Bentleigh Secondary College 

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Schlanger, Harry P
Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2008 3:29 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] HardDrive Repairs expert required

Hi Ken,

Thanks for making us more aware of the problem of data left on computers when the machines are disposed. With the upcoming laptop rollout, I'd like to research this topic a bit more so that I may advice teachers (and our school) on the proper way to dispose of data before surrendering laptops/desktops.

Would you have more details/any references re the current accepted methods of disposal?

Harry Schlanger

Tyrrell College, Sea Lake

Ph: (03) 5070 2106
Fax: (03) 5070 1069

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of ken price
Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 4:19 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] HardDrive Repairs expert required

Hi folks, 

We had an expert in computer forensics present at an ACS event here, on the extremes of data recovery from hard drives.

The level of data that CAN be retrieved from a full disk crash is remarkable (if you have the time and money). 

Of particular interest was what happens to laptop hard drives that fail under warranty. These go back to manufacturer and some are rebuilt (often the electronics only fail) and re-issued as exchange warranty drives. Thus with the right software and hardware it is often possible to retrieve someone else's data from your warranty replacement hard drive. He had examples of this (more common when hard drives were expensive of course). 

The US security agencies at one stage adopted a physical solution to prevent their failed drives ending up in someone else's laptop - a policy of firing two bullets throught the drive platters.But even this turned out to be insufficient. There are techniques where the damaged platters are removed and specialised hardware used to measure remnant magnetism not just on the surface of the disk but profiled into the magnetic surface. Magnetic force microscopy and other techniques allow a chance of data recovery even after massive physical damage.

As with viruses and antivirus software, the data recovery industry and data deletion industries chase one another. Much of the literature in this area is actually about how to wipe your data to make it unrecoverable, as that is a serious security issue given the high rate of turnover of computer hardware. 

http://www.infoage.idg.com.au/index.php?id=1486101804 has a bit on this that is probably useful for schools.

This probably doesn't help the original enquiry, but it is worth realising that it takes quite a serious event to make data totally unrecoverable, but quite a lot of money and time to actually do that low-level recovery.. Of course, as Robert advises, it is far cheaper to take preventive action than to try to recover from a massive failure. And with portable external hard drives providing a terabyte of storage for the cost of 5 tanks of petrol, there has never been a better time to back up!

Ken Price

TASITE http://www.tasite.tas.edu.au <http://www.tasite.tas.edu.au/> 

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DoE Tasmania

On 6/3/08, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote: 

Oh dear!

In most cases there is no way of retrieving the data if there has been a full "disk crash"

Other more minor problems can sometimes be resolved and date retrieved, at cost of course!

BUT PLEASE BACKUP all important data. 

Either via your school's net work for work data or via a USB connected external drive for your personal data.

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood

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