[Year 12 IT Apps] Re: U4-O1 - Visual Representation
Russo, Frank R
Russo.Frank.R at edumail.vic.gov.au
Wed Jul 30 14:05:59 EST 2008
Hi Kelly
I have some examples and possible copies of what my students did last year....would be happy to share now just need a moment in the day to find them.......will get back to you.
Frank Russo
ICT - Teaching & Learning
Monterey Secondary College
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Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: U4-O1 - Visual Representation
I am struggling to think of a way to help students understand the Visual
Representation. I tried to make up a grid to help them -
a) think of some of the decisions that they had to make (not every
decision as this is impossible - but a good range)
b) talk about the options they had (and the criteria they used to choose
one)
c) Tell me the solution, discuss why they chose that, and then talk
about whether it was effective.
QUESTION - What decisions did you have to make?
OPTIONS - what did you think about when solving the question?
SOLUTION - what did you choose and why? Was it effective and why?
Some of the questions we came up with are:
Which design tools will I use?
Where will the logo go?
How many worksheets will I need?
What size font will I use for the heading?
What information needs to go on each sheet?
Which formula do I need to use to work out the percentage?
How do I work out the totals?
How can I make this solution easy to use for the users (who is the
audience?)
What type of on-line user documentation do the users need?
What software will I use to make the documentation?
How will I decide what needs to go on the documentation?
Am I on the right track as far as the 'thinking' part of the Visual
Representation? I'd appreciate any feedback (first year ITA teacher,
this one has thrown me!)
Kelly Butler
Lara Secondary College
Ph: (03) 5282 8988 Fax: (03) 5282 8188
butler.kelly.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
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Today's Topics:
1. Exams (Russo, Frank R)
2. Re: U4-O1 (Mark Kelly)
3. Re: U4-O1 (Litsa Tzelepis)
4. RE: U4-O1 (Russo, Frank R)
5. RE: OT - Lenovo R61 issues (Denny, Chris Z)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:36:47 +1000
From: "Russo, Frank R" <Russo.Frank.R at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Exams
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Talking Exams VITTA have released their practice exams for 2008, I will
be placing my order online today.
Frank Russo
ICT ~ Teaching & Learning
Monterey Secondary College
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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 8:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - Lenovo R61 issues
Hi all. This discussion is better suited to the tech thread.
Let's steer this list back to ITA, which should become rather more
animated now the exam is coming up fast.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:39:11 +1000
From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4-O1
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The representation of thinking is supposed to cover _all_ the thinking
in the spreadsheet and documentation (which is rather optimistic, I
believe: this sort of thing does not come easily to kids).
I suppose it doesn't matter how many diagrams they use to do the job, as
long as the major thinking, decisions and actions are represented.
I hope the representation of thinking does not have to represent the
thinking involved in representing their thinking. Recursion always gives
me a headache.
Litsa Tzelepis wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> For U4-O1 how many visual representations/mind maps should we expect
our
> students to produce?
> Is one sufficient?
>
> Thank-you, Litsa
>
>
> ---
> Litsa Tzelepis
> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College
> 133 Maidstone Street, Altona
> Year 10 Team Leader
> & Technology Convenor
> (P) 8398 2000
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A conclusion is the place where you got sick of thinking.
If you Declare War - is it integer or boolean?
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:22:35 +1000
From: "Litsa Tzelepis" <htzelepis at msj.melb.catholic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4-O1
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thank-you mark.
have a nice day.
litsa
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4-O1
> The representation of thinking is supposed to cover _all_ the thinking
in
> the spreadsheet and documentation (which is rather optimistic, I
believe:
> this sort of thing does not come easily to kids).
>
> I suppose it doesn't matter how many diagrams they use to do the job,
as
> long as the major thinking, decisions and actions are represented.
>
> I hope the representation of thinking does not have to represent the
> thinking involved in representing their thinking. Recursion always
gives
> me a headache.
>
> Litsa Tzelepis wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> For U4-O1 how many visual representations/mind maps should we expect
our
>> students to produce?
>> Is one sufficient?
>> Thank-you, Litsa
>> ---
>> Litsa Tzelepis
>> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College
>> 133 Maidstone Street, Altona
>> Year 10 Team Leader
>> & Technology Convenor
>> (P) 8398 2000
>> (E) htzelepis at msj.melb.catholic.edu.au
>> <mailto:htzelepis at msj.melb.catholic.edu.au>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
> --
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> A conclusion is the place where you got sick of thinking.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:24:35 +1000
From: "Russo, Frank R" <Russo.Frank.R at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4-O1
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Thinking about Thinking....hmmmmm too early in the morning for
pedagogical statements.
Frank Russo
ICT ~ Teaching & Learning
Monterey Secondary College
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4-O1
The representation of thinking is supposed to cover _all_ the thinking
in the spreadsheet and documentation (which is rather optimistic, I
believe: this sort of thing does not come easily to kids).
I suppose it doesn't matter how many diagrams they use to do the job, as
long as the major thinking, decisions and actions are represented.
I hope the representation of thinking does not have to represent the
thinking involved in representing their thinking. Recursion always gives
me a headache.
Litsa Tzelepis wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> For U4-O1 how many visual representations/mind maps should we expect
our
> students to produce?
> Is one sufficient?
>
> Thank-you, Litsa
>
>
> ---
> Litsa Tzelepis
> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College
> 133 Maidstone Street, Altona
> Year 10 Team Leader
> & Technology Convenor
> (P) 8398 2000
> (E) htzelepis at msj.melb.catholic.edu.au
> <mailto:htzelepis at msj.melb.catholic.edu.au>
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A conclusion is the place where you got sick of thinking.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:33:19 +1000
From: "Denny, Chris Z" <denny.chris.z at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - Lenovo R61 issues
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Yet another problem has reared its ugly head in relation to the new R61
notebook computers. It seems the notebook division, in its infinite
wisdom, installed a generic graphics driver which will not let Microsoft
Movie Maker run because it does not support the required hardware
acceleration.
I went to the Lenovo site, downloaded the appropriate driver and
installed it. Problem solved!
Why in the hell was that not done by the experts(?) who prepared the
image? I am tired of either me or my technical staff doing these jobs
that should have been done in the beginning.
Chris Denny
ICT Co-ordinator
Trafalgar High School
Phone (03) 56331733
Fax (03) 56332378
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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of laurie Savage
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:42 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - Lenovo R61 issues
Hi Ros,
I like Switch Proxy for Firefox and didn't know about IE7Pro. As for the
wireless connection, I think our Cisco system is OK somehow! I mentioned
in my first post that DEECD had created a lovely home machine - no
problems with cheap domestic wireless routers etc. The main issue is the
work our techies are having to do to 39 machines to have them barely
operable in our environment.
Laurie
> Friefox has a little addon called QuickProxy , IE7 has an
addon
> called IE7Pro (which has much more than a proxy switcher but is
> well worth using if you must use IE)
>
> Connecting Vista to wireless - you may need to upgrade the firmware
in
> your WAPs - if they are older then Vista will not like them. Check the
> website of the brand of WAP you have.
>
> MS says your router/WAP is not Vista friendly - I would say it is
Vista
> who is not the friendly one!!
>
> After upgrading the firmware on my router at home I now have no
problems
> with wireless connections on the two Vista notebooks that are used
here,
> whereas before I upgraded the firmware they would work intermittently
at
> best (one day yes, 5 days no, one would work the other wouldn't etc)
>
> Cheers
> Ros
>
> laurie Savage wrote: Michael, I wish it was so simple! The
laptops
> have SP1 fitted. Laurie Laurie We got new laptops at the
> beginning of the year and had the same problems.\ But once Microsoft
> released Service Pack 1 for Vista a lot of the problems disappeared.
Far
> from me wanting to praise the work of Microsoft, Vista work
beautifully
> now. If you right click on the Computer item in the menu and choose
> properties, or choose the System icon in the classic view of the
Control
> Panel, it should list Service Pack 1 under the Windows Edition
> information at the top. If it is not listed I recommend installing it
> immediately - available from Microsoft's web site. And I wonder what
on
> the earth the technicians were thinking by pushing out laptops with
it.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------- With
> thanks Michael Torsello Director of Computing St Margaret's School,
> Berwick Ph: (03) 9703 8111 -----Original Message----- From:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On
> Behalf Of Laurie Savage Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:13 AM To: 'Year
12
> IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List' Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT
-
> Lenovo R61 issues Well I just received my new R61. I feel like a kid
who
> asked for Meccano for Xmas and was given Lego! - They don't
> automatically map our network drives; - they don't play nicely with
our
> wireless; - users can't set the proxy in Internet options, and I don't
> want the job of teaching them how to add Firefox's switch proxy tool;
-
> we're going to have fun with all the new .docx documents being created
> and I don't want to have to teach the staff how to create compatible
> files; - users can't disable the password request that appears after
the
> machine is idle; and, - even as the administrator, I can't shrink my
hard
> drive to create partitions for my various sandboxes and trials. - Oh,
a
> plus - Vista's pretty - but not up to KDE standards! On the whole, in
> configuring a machine for productive work, the provider has succeeded
in
> making a really nice home computer that is useless in the office. Why
> didn't I buy the old R51? K.R.A.P. Keep the faith ;-\ Laurie
> -----Original Message----- From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly Sent:
> Monday, 28 July 2008 10:54 AM To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers'
> Mailing List Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - laptop replacement
issue
> I was told by the notebooks people that the actual collection of old
> notebooks begins 11 August, and that the 30th of July is a 'flag day'.
> But who knows what's right any more. Andrew Grimshaw wrote:
> debra the PCs may be ready but the SNR here has been advised that
the
> macbooks will not be ready for perhaps 6 weeks
> Regarding pushing back the date again, pls see a copy of the text
> below -andrew Dear Notebook recipient,
> a.. The notebook currently in your possession as part of Rounds 1
&
> 2 Cycle 3 is due for return to the leasing company.
> a.. To facilitate the changeover process, please ensure
that
> you have backed up all your files.
a..
> Due to the unforeseen delays for delivery of the replacement
> notebooks we have extended the return date. If you did not
purchase
> your notebook it must be returned to your School Notebook
Representative
> no later than 30th July regardless of whether you are receiving a
> replacement notebook. The Department is contractually
> obliged to return all end-of-lease notebooks to the
> lessor, who will impose a fee for late- or non-return. Failure to
return
> or purchase your notebook will incur a non return fee of $500.
Returning
> your notebook after the deadline will incur a late return fee of $100
> ----- Original Message ----- From: McDonald, Debra A1
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List Sent: Monday,
July
> 28, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - laptop
replacement
> issue Hi Andrew, in my role I have had extensive discussion
with
> DEET regarding this and apparently all laptops will be
> here within 7 days of hand over if not before hand.. I think they may
> push back some dates again as they have shifted these now twice...
> Cheers Debra McDonald Network Manager Lyndhurst
> Secondary College Cranbourne (03) 5996 0144
>
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> of Andrew Grimshaw Sent: Mon 28/07/08 9:47 AM To: Year 12 IT
> Applications Teachers' Mailing List Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT -
> laptop replacement issue hi everry1 I assume everbody who is
due
> to have their laptops rolled over got the same email
as
> me with deecd threatenting to fine us if we dont hand over our laptops
by
> wed problem is for macbook recipients like me is
that
> the macbooks may not be ready for 6 weeks or more!
> AAAAGGGGHHHH. How can i do my job without my laptop? I
dont
> have another computer at home. There goes
Preparatiopn!
> There goes Research! There goes communication! What
are
> DEECDE thinking!? I rang the union and they are going to follow
this
> up. I am pretty sure that our agreement was that the
old
> laptops dont have to be handed over until the new ones are ready, and
> that we are obliged only to continue paying for the old ones in the
> meantime. Andrew Grimshaw Colac Sec College
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