[Year 12 IT Apps] OT - Lenovo R61 issues

Tue Jul 29 16:08:15 EST 2008

Hi Jim,

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's policy. We're running Vista Enterprise so we're
the next level up from Business. I've fiddled with Vista on other laptops
and haven't had these sort of issues at all.

Laurie

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Jim Maunder
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 2:08 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - Lenovo R61 issues

Hi Laurie -

Try reposting this in the tech list:

Technical Discussion in Schools Mailing List <tech at edulists.com.au>

What you describe is strange behaviour, even for Vista. It makes me 
think that some sort of 'policy' has been applied to them. It took me 
a while to come to grips with the Vista way of doing things (as usual 
with new releases, there are twice as many click needed to get to the 
setting that needs fiddling) and the UAC (User Access Control?) gets 
in the way of a lot off things. I assume these come with Vista 
Business, otherwise they won't work well with MS networking.

I'm outside the DEET umbrella, so maybe a proper state school tech 
who know how DEET does things might be more of use to you.

rgds
Jim

At 10:13 AM 29/07/2008, you wrote:
>Well I just received my new R61. I feel like a kid who asked for Meccano
for
>Xmas and was given Lego!
>
>- They don't automatically map our network drives;
>- they don't play nicely with our wireless;
>- users can't set the proxy in Internet options, and I don't want the job
of
>teaching them how to add Firefox's switch proxy tool;
>- we're going to have fun with all the new .docx documents being created
and
>I don't want to have to teach the staff how to create compatible files;
>- users can't disable the password request that appears after the machine
is
>idle; and,
>- even as the administrator, I can't shrink my hard drive to create
>partitions for my various sandboxes and trials.
>- Oh, a plus - Vista's pretty - but not up to KDE standards!
>
>On the whole, in configuring a machine for productive work, the provider
has
>succeeded in making a really nice home computer that is useless in the
>office. Why didn't I buy the old R51?
>
>K.R.A.P.
>
>Keep the faith ;-\
>
>Laurie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
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>On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>Sent: Monday, 28 July 2008 10:54 AM
>To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - laptop replacement issue
>
>I was told by the notebooks people that the actual collection of old
>notebooks begins 11 August, and that the 30th of July is a 'flag day'.
>
>But who knows what's right any more.
>
>Andrew Grimshaw wrote:
> > debra
> >
> > the PCs may be ready but the SNR here has been advised that the macbooks
>will not be ready for perhaps 6 weeks
> >
> > Regarding pushing back the date again, pls see a copy of the text below
> >
> > -andrew
> >
> > Dear Notebook recipient,
> >
> >
> >
> >   a.. The notebook currently in your possession as part of Rounds 1 & 2
>Cycle 3 is due for return to the leasing company.
> >
> >
> >   a.. To facilitate the changeover process, please ensure that you have
>backed up all your files.
> >
> >
> >   a.. Due to the unforeseen delays for delivery of the replacement
>notebooks we have extended the return date.  If you did not purchase your
>notebook it must be returned to your School Notebook Representative no
later
>than 30th July regardless of whether you are receiving a replacement
>notebook.
> >
> >
> > The Department is contractually obliged to return all end-of-lease
>notebooks to the lessor, who will impose a fee for late- or non-return.
>Failure to return or purchase your notebook will incur a non return fee of
>$500. Returning your notebook after the deadline will incur a late return
>fee of $100
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: McDonald, Debra A1
> >   To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> >   Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:59 AM
> >   Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - laptop replacement issue
> >
> >
> >   Hi Andrew,
> >
> >   in my role I have had extensive discussion with DEET regarding this
and
>apparently all laptops will be here within 7 days of hand over if not
before
>hand.. I  think they may push back some dates again as they have shifted
>these now twice...
> >
> >   Cheers
> >   Debra McDonald
> >   Network Manager
> >   Lyndhurst Secondary College
> >   Cranbourne
> >   (03) 5996 0144
> >
> >
> >
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> >   From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Andrew Grimshaw
> >   Sent: Mon 28/07/08 9:47 AM
> >   To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> >   Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] OT - laptop replacement issue
> >
> >
> >   hi everry1
> >
> >   I assume everbody who is due to have their laptops rolled over got the
>same email as me with deecd threatenting to fine us if we dont hand over
our
>laptops by wed
> >
> >   problem is for macbook recipients like me is that the macbooks may not
>be ready for 6 weeks or more!
> >
> >
> >   AAAAGGGGHHHH. How can i do my job without my laptop? I dont have
another
>computer at home. There goes Preparatiopn! There goes Research! There goes
>communication!
> >
> >   What are DEECDE thinking!?
> >
> >   I rang the union and they are going to follow this up. I am pretty
sure
>that our agreement was that the old laptops dont have to be handed over
>until the new ones are ready, and that we are obliged only to continue
>paying for the old ones in the meantime.
> >
> >   Andrew Grimshaw
> >   Colac Sec College
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