[Year 12 IT Apps] RE: Markbook on Vista

Darren Hobbs hobbs.darren.r at edumail.vic.gov.au
Thu Aug 28 10:26:42 EST 2008


Vista is set to be a little more secure than XP. If the Markbook folder is
located in the users "Documents" folder then the user does have all the
security rights for reading and writing and Markbook should be OK. 

The problem seems to occur when the reports folder is located outside the
users "Documents" folder, say "c:\reports". Vista , by default, only gives
read permissions for folders outside "Documents". This is supposed to
prevent strange things happening to Vista. This is why the permissions need
to be set manually outside the Documents folder. When you update Markbook it
sends your files to Central and updates them into the database. Central then
tries to send you new copies of the files. When it can't write the first
file you get the error message.

 

Unix systems are also guilty of this kind of thing. I have copied photos
from DVD's onto Mac OS X (a certified unix OS) and before I can rename a
file (yes, just rename a file) I have to change the read only file
permissions that copy with the photos, even though I am logged in as an
administrator. Annoying, but takes only seconds to fix. When you do this on
Windows it allows you to rename the files without changing the permissions.

 

Yes, the Vista image was appalling. Our TSSP did his own Vista image for the
Macbooks using Bootcamp. It runs nicely on a Mac but I think this is more to
do with the image and the setup than the Mac hardware. However, when using
Vista to generate a report in Markbook Central it took 4 and a half minutes.
I installed XP myself and the same report took 30 seconds so I'll be using
XP on the Macbook to manage reports.

 

And guys, don't turn this into a windows versus mac flame war. Both systems
have their strengths and weaknesses.

 

Darren Hobbs

Markbook Coordinator

Geelong High School

 

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Mcaleer, Joseph J
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 9:43 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: Markbook on Vista

 

got it working thanks...was just the permissions, seems strange that
permissions aren't automatically given to the person who is paying the rent
for the computer

 

-----Original Message----- 
From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Laurie Savage 
Sent: Thu 8/28/2008 9:05 AM 
To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List' 
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: Markbook on Vista 
  
I can't replicate the Vista/Markbook problem 

 

 on my own Vista installation, but I haven't tried with a department 
machine. 

The Vista image is appalling and our staff are jacking up, blaming the 
technology and rather than its implementation. A shame really because I've 
come to like Vista - MS have finally "discovered" a sensible folder 
architecture. Oh, wait, Unix has been doing the /users/<name>/<folders> 
thingy for about 30+ years; Mac since 1984; OS/2 since 1989 and Linux since 
1993! Windows - back to the future! 

 

Laurie 

-----Original Message----- 
From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]

On Behalf Of Denny, Chris Z 
Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 3:56 PM 
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List 
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: Markbook on Vista 

Had the same problem with vista. You need to change permissions of the 
markbook folders so that users have modify rights ...... Thank you who 
ever set up the Vista image in the department. 

Chris Denny 
ICT Co-ordinator 
Trafalgar High School 
Phone (03) 56331733 
Fax (03) 56332378 

-----Original Message----- 
From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mcaleer, Joseph J 
Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 11:40 AM 
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List 
Subject: Markbook on Vista 

Really sorry if this has been discussed previously but this problem just 
appeared for us. Just wondering if anyone else has had problems with 
getting markbook to update on Vista machines? Vista users are getting a 
"Path Access" error. 
Any advice would be much appreciated, 
Cheers 

Joseph McAleer 
ICT Co-ordinator 
Balmoral High School 

 

  

 

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