[Year 12 IT Apps] Re: A front page tute site...
Anton Yoxon
anton.yoxon at hillcrest.vic.edu.au
Mon Apr 28 08:23:40 EST 2008
Go to the microsoft training packages site. It has all the training
packages free.
Cheers
Anton
McDonald, Debra A1 wrote:
> This is a great link...... but has anyone out there found a good tute
> sight for the new 2007 office products... My school has rolled out the
> new versions and FP is no-longer a program but there is another
> program that seems the same but under another name (can not think of
> it at moment - at code camp oz and having brain crammed with .net and
> virtual enviro info... to much information............) , and it has a
> new options.. as we have education version - no manuals and hence have
> buckles change of finding what I need easy....
>
> so please if you know of any tutes or even better good tutes... I
> would be extremely grateful.. have to start teaching this on wed and
> it has not been installed on laptop so only have mon and tue night
> now.....
>
> cheers
> Debra M^c Donald
> Network Manager
> Lyndhurst Secondary College
> Cranbourne
> (03) 5996 0144
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________________________
> http://www.fgcu.edu/support/office2000/frontpage/
>
> Here's a link to a site for FP2000 tute stuff. It also has tutes on
> other packages. I tend to keep links like this that I stumble on in my
> favorites list..they come in handy occasionally.
>
> Handy ref for those who may wish to explore/use it.
>
> Cheers..
>
> KB.
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M
> *Sent:* Sun 4/20/2008 10:08 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure page qn..
>
> Hi Kent,
>
>
>
> The WAMPserver I have just installed on my notebook, and it is all
> offline viewing (not via network or internet), all the students need
> to do is copy their website folder onto a USB, bring it to me, I drag
> it into the www folder in the wamp directory, open firefox and type
> "localhost/theirwebfolder" and hit enter. You just need to make sure
> you close wamp down when you're not using it from a security point of
> view I guess.
>
>
>
> My school network allows me to do virtually no more than what the
> students can do. I pay for my own (commercial) server so that I can
> discover and learn, and because I have fun doing these things (ok so I
> am warped!!) In reality if you wanted to set up a website for a
> virtual team you would need to have a domain name and have it hosted
> by a commercial server, and therefore you would probably use joomla,
> drupal, phpnuke, xoops etc or one of the many other CMS that can be
> installed on a server with 3 clicks, using cpanel and fantastico. But
> that does not invalidate the credibility of this outcome, as I said,
> my students have really enjoyed it, and they have learnt a lot and
> worked exceedingly well. I tossed up whether I would show them what
> you can do with a commercial server, but in the end I ran out of time
> (I never seem to have a full class for one reason or another!!), and
> thought it was unnecessary and perhaps would be confusing to some of
> them.
>
>
>
> The students who have put their websites onto the internet did it from
> home (they can access their school directory from home) They also have
> paid for a commercial server, as web design interests them. Currently
> I use siteground (and I have nothing to gain from mentioning them!!) I
> think it is well worth the small amount of money to pay to have the
> ability to create your own websites, play in the sandpit, and for what
> I pay per year it is incredible PD!!
>
>
>
> Visual thinking? Did I miss something? I thought that was U4O1 (Task 3)??
>
>
>
> Good luck Kent -- the kids will love this Outcome, but you can be
> thankful that the hard slog of database is over!! I have attached a
> file on "Quick Front Page Tutorial" for you -- you may need to change
> save locations (presently MY Docs) and the topic of the website (you
> could change Armadale to Victoria or YourTown to make it more relevant)
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ros
>
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Kent Beveridge
> *Sent:* Sunday, 20 April 2008 8:46 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure page qn..
>
>
>
> Hi Ros,
>
> unlike your good self, my network doesnt have the set up where I can
> do some of the things you have done and that we have previously
> discussed either here or at the various face to face times we've met.
>
> Essentially, I am limited to what the software we have available can
> do, added to that, the students I have this year are, shall we
> say...just plain hard yakka! (last year's group of 15 was easier than
> these 3 and a damn site more co-operative!). The proverbial brick wall
> is more intelligent!
>
>
>
> At this stage I have just battled to get them through oc1 and am about
> to start the prelim work for oc2...should prove interesting..
>
>
>
> The visual thinking..might use a simple tool like word art here to
> keep it simple, and they know how to use it already..theres a bonus.
> We used dreamweaver last year but will stick with FP this year. (KIS
> principle.)
>
>
>
> stay tuned....
>
>
>
> KB.
>
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M
> *Sent:* Sun 4/20/2008 7:56 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure page qn..
>
> Hi Bill,
>
>
>
> Personally I would suggest students choose from the following tools
> for virtual team collaboration:
>
> · Discussion forum (personally I would consider this as
> absolutely essential)
>
> · Wiki
>
> · FAQ
>
> · Blog (perhaps with ability to attach files)
>
> · IM/chat
>
> · File uploading and sharing
>
> · Polls or surveys
>
> · Email distribution/mailing lists
>
>
>
> I would also suggest that secure login is essential (can be shown with
> a screen dump which then links to the secure page) Some of my students
> used the drawing tools in word, paint or photoshop to create images of
> various tools.
>
>
>
> Some of my students also used javascript/cgi scripts which can be
> easily found on the web -- for login and chat etc
>
>
>
> There are other tools for virtual teams (video conferencing etc) but
> above are probably the easiest to show -- remember that the website
> only needs to be a prototype, it does not HAVE to work -- I've
> installed WAMP because some of my students did go the extra mile so it
> will be nice for them to see their site working (although the ones
> that did the extra scripting tend to have their own web servers
> anyway!! One just uploaded his to the web for me to view which was
> nice! (Siteground is so cheap, well worth it!)
>
>
>
> I might also say -- the students just LOVED this outcome -- some of
> mine are not strong and their attitude can at times be a little less
> than acceptable, but even in the design phase I had some who created
> page layout designs for 8 pages (when I expected them to create 3
> pages and the site map)
>
>
>
> I have yet to do Database, as I felt if I started with databases they
> would all be running for the door! O2 has given many of them much
> needed confidence.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ros
>
>
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Bill Oldham
> *Sent:* Sunday, 20 April 2008 7:05 PM
> *To:* 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure page qn..
>
>
>
> Hi Roz,
>
>
>
> This is my first time with this SAC 2 and I am a bit nervous as I
> approach it.
>
>
>
> When you mention four collaborative tools, which ones do you have in
> mind? To me they might be email (Web 1.0), Private access blog, a
> wiki, rss feeds, various Google apps and perhaps Flickr and YouTube
> and TeacherTube.
>
>
>
> But I would feel more reassured to hear from you and others what you
> expect your students to use in your class.
>
>
>
> Regards, Bill Oldham (Chisholm TAFE)
>
>
>
> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Meadows, Roslyn
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:05 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure page qn..
>
>
>
> Hi Kent,
>
>
>
> I allowed my students to use the predesigned website templates in
> FrontPage, but in themselves I do not believe that they would
> adequately provide a website for this outcome, as this only provides
> one of the tools for virtual team collaboration (I expected them to
> show at least 3, but said preferably 4 tools should be used, all but
> the weakest students found it easy enough to provide 4 tools for their
> website). In the end not many of them used the templates, but chose to
> design their site from the ground up.
>
>
>
> The predesigned discussion template only provides discussion, and the
> project template provides a discussion and the customer support
> template provides a support forum and a FAQ page.
>
>
>
> Certainly show them to your students, and they can certainly cut and
> paste sections of these templates into their own website, but they
> will still need to add much more to their virtual team website for it
> to address the requirements of this outcome.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ros
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> *Roslyn Meadows
> Head of ICT Implementation*
>
> *Head of Assessment and Reporting
> Bentleigh Secondary College *
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Kent Beveridge
> *Sent:* Sunday, 20 April 2008 2:18 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* OC2 Virtual coll..secure page qn..
>
>
>
> Outcome 2 Virtual Collaboration..
>
> Using front page, a web can be created incorporating a self
> registration page for a discussion forum. What is the consensus from
> you guys about using this as an option to allow 'secure virtual
> collaboration'.
>
> Its available on the page selection feature with FP to build into webs
> and we are required to build into our site a virtual discussion forum.
>
> Any comments on this idea.
>
> Paula C. is this a legitimate approach?
>
>
>
> Visual thinking.. anyone got a magic bullet for that one yet? We all
> had our different approaches last year on the VT approach.
>
>
>
> Handpass...
>
>
>
> Kent.
>
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Timmer-Arends
> *Sent:* Sat 4/19/2008 8:28 AM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's
> report
>
> Validation is used to
> D. prevent inaccurate data from entering the system
>
> It would have been better if D had read: D minimise inaccurate...
> but, given that it didn't, D is the *most* correct answer
>
> because, as has been pointed out, validation (manual or electronic) can
> never prevent inaccurate data from entering a system; eg the form that the
> entry operator is using may have been filled out incorrectly etc
>
> And (for the sake of my pedantic soul) I no longer think spell checking
> should be considered as a validation technique because it is not actually
> checking the validity of the data, but the validity of the spelling.
> "Correct" spelling is a convention: fish, fyche, or ghoti are all written
> representations in the English language of those animals you eat with
> chips.
> If the data were about types of animals found on a plate then 'ghoti'
> would
> be correct, but becuase it does not follow convention it becomes difficult
> to understand. And isn't that one of the purposes of conventions: to
> give us
> a common frame of reference?
>
> Regards
> Robert T-A
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Scott" <msc at luther.vic.edu.au>
> To: "'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'"
> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's
> report
>
>
> Forget machine validation.
>
> The question is talking about manual validation.
>
> Checking for typos etc is clearly checking for accuracy.
>
> Mark Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 2:24 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's
> report
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Yes, I include spell checking as validation, and I agree that the other
> options are all bad, but I don't accept that validation can check that
> data are accurate.
>
> If a person's age is entered as 19 into a database, validation can't
> prove the person is 19 or not. All it can do is tell whether 19 is a
> reasonable age or not under the circumstances (e.g. 19 would not be
> reasonable if the database stored data on newborn babies, or if it were
> an old folk's home).
>
> And looking at databases' validation options, you can check for data
> range, type, existence, uniqueness, even its existence in a limited
> list, but not "accuracy" :-)
>
> The Q does not mention calculations, but what I tried to say was that
> testing accuracy is a role of testing, not validation (and my kids
> frequently confuse testing and validation (and evaluation, come to think
> of it).
>
> It's mainly annoying that the question contradicts the Study Design
> glossary, which is mandated knowledge. But then again, it's Friday
> afternoon and most things annoy me then.
>
> Mark Scott wrote:
> > Not sure I agree with you on this one.
> >
> > Checking data entry for spelling mistakes is validation (I think).
> >
> > And where does the part d mention calculations?
> >
> > And it is certainly the most correct response. (the first three are
> > testing)
> >
> > Mark Scott
> > "Education is an admirable thing, but remember that nothing that is worth
> > knowing can be taught." Oscar Wilde
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> > Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 1:23 PM
> > To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's
> > report
> >
> > I see Section A Q9 had no comment by the examiners...
> >
> > "Validation is used to
> > A. check the accuracy of calculations.
> > B. detect software errors and alert the manager.
> > C. test functions and alert programmers to errors.
> > D. prevent inaccurate data from entering the system.
> >
> > The official 'right' answer was still steadfastly 'D', which is rubbish.
> >
> > It cannot be D because validation does NOT check the ACCURACY of data,
> > only its reasonableness.
> >
> > Even the sacred IT glossary says validation checks data input to a system
> > is of an "appropriate type for processing, and within acceptable
> > boundaries")
> >
> > So are we to accept that validation is used to check the accuracy of
> > calculations? No - that's called testing.
> >
> > Hmphh.
> > Not happy, Jan.
> >
> >
> >
> > Christophersen, Paula P wrote:
> >> Dear colleagues
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The assessor's report on the 2007 IT apps examination is now available
> >> at:
> >>
> >> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/exams.
> >> html#H2N10037
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It is also attached. I will let you know when the Software development
> >> report is available.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Paula
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Paula Christophersen
> >>
> >> ICT Curriculum Manager
> >>
> >> VCAA
> >>
> >> 41 St Andrews Place
> >>
> >> EAST MELBOURNE 3002
> >>
> >> (03) 9651 4378
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Manager - Information Systems
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