[Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's report

Fri Apr 18 21:45:17 EST 2008

But the question does not mention manual or electronic validation...
It just says ""Validation is used to..."

And I'm drinking white rather than red. Maybe that's why we disagree?  :-P

Mark Scott wrote:
> Forget machine validation.
> 
> The question is talking about manual validation.
> 
> Checking for typos etc is clearly checking for accuracy.
> 
> Mark Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 2:24 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's report
> 
> Hi Mark
> 
> Yes, I include spell checking as validation, and I agree that the other
> options are all bad, but I don't accept that validation can check that
> data are accurate.
> 
> If a person's age is entered as 19 into a database, validation can't
> prove the person is 19 or not.  All it can do is tell whether 19 is a
> reasonable age or not under the circumstances (e.g. 19 would not be
> reasonable if the database stored data on newborn babies, or if it were
> an old folk's home).
> 
> And looking at databases' validation options, you can check for data
> range, type, existence, uniqueness, even its existence in a limited
> list, but not "accuracy"  :-)
> 
> The Q does not mention calculations, but what I tried to say was that
> testing accuracy is a role of testing, not validation (and my kids
> frequently confuse testing and validation (and evaluation, come to think
> of it).
> 
> It's mainly annoying that the question contradicts the Study Design
> glossary, which is mandated knowledge.  But then again, it's Friday
> afternoon and most things annoy me then.
> 
> Mark Scott wrote:
>> Not sure I agree with you on this one.
>>
>> Checking data entry for spelling mistakes is validation (I think).
>>
>> And where does the part d mention calculations?
>>
>> And it is certainly the most correct response. (the first three are testing)
>>
>> Mark Scott
>> "Education is an admirable thing, but remember that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught." Oscar Wilde
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>> Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 1:23 PM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's report
>>
>> I see Section A Q9 had no comment by the examiners...
>>
>> "Validation is used to
>> A. check the accuracy of calculations.
>> B. detect software errors and alert the manager.
>> C. test functions and alert programmers to errors.
>> D. prevent inaccurate data from entering the system.
>>
>> The official 'right' answer was still steadfastly 'D', which is rubbish.
>>
>> It cannot be D because validation does NOT check the ACCURACY of data, only its reasonableness.
>>
>> Even the sacred IT glossary says validation checks data input to a system is of an "appropriate type for processing, and within acceptable
>> boundaries")
>>
>> So are we to accept that validation is used to check the accuracy of calculations? No - that's called testing.
>>
>> Hmphh.
>> Not happy, Jan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophersen, Paula P wrote:
>>> Dear colleagues
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The assessor's report on the 2007 IT apps examination is now available at:
>>>
>>> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/exams.
>>> html#H2N10037
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is also attached. I will let you know when the Software development
>>> report is available.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Paula
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paula Christophersen
>>>
>>> ICT Curriculum Manager
>>>
>>> VCAA
>>>
>>> 41 St Andrews Place
>>>
>>> EAST MELBOURNE 3002
>>>
>>> (03) 9651 4378
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>> Manager - Information Systems
>> McKinnon Secondary College
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>> A conclusion is the place where you got sick of thinking.
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> 
> 
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> A conclusion is the place where you got sick of thinking.
> If you Declare War - is it integer or boolean?
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