[Year 12 IT Apps] Supporting Virtual TeamsthroughTechnology-VITTA Workshop 09/08 - Registrations Open!

Tue Apr 1 21:43:37 EST 2008

Hi Ros,
A year or two back I took, as part of several venues for the day, a group of kids to sites including CERES. It has some interesting uses of technology and the 'mini farm' environment looked interesting. The cafe was a bit pricey from memory though!. The problem we found from feedback on the day was that the kids felt the time there was perhaps a tad too long (bout 2.5hrs I think it was). Just feedback, not comment.
Me, intrigued by the power stuff and the windmill. The energy house didnt offer any surprises, in fact I felt it was behind the times actually! Kids ride bikes and chuck em now, not many seem interested in what makes em work!

There you go, a bit on technology for ya!

Kent.

ps.. about the comment from another lister that I generalize in the subject...yep! Guilty as charged!.
Why? the short attention span when I start talking technical is a clue(of the students!)...they just arent interested about that stuff...you guessed it...talk games and they're in your palm! Talk technical and they go to sleep!
Mind you, got a couple of technical nerds this year....its a good challenge.

pps..for you users of Dell Laptops ...just put a non Dell DDR2 2Gb RAM chip in my laptop upping it to 3Gb when the net, and the Dell site, said could only go to 2! go figure. The machine recognized the non Dell chip too (the dell site reckoned only use dell RAM ...WRONG...put in a Kingston 2Gb chip...wanted 2 @ 2Gb each to give me 4Gb but the bloke only had one left..ah well settle for 3Gg for now!. Running XP. 
Hey Ros...stop laughing!!  You and your Mac!!...Hey, hows that mini machine of yours going that you showed us at the Moodle fest? An ASUS I think it was...saw one of those in 'The Good Guys' store today but cant remember the price.

Just got a flyer in the mail..AusPost has a 500Gb  WD storage for $179 and a Maxtor unit for the same price(same capacity)..Not a promo, but I am currently looking at this stuff so thought others might be interested too.(good for UBUNTU etc..me is thinking here!)

Kent.

Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M
Sent: Mon 3/31/2008 7:46 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Supporting Virtual TeamsthroughTechnology-VITTA Workshop 09/08 - Registrations Open!

Hi all

I have an old CRT monitor to recycle and mentioned that I need to get rid of it to hubby tonight - but he works at CERES in East Brunswick (www.ceres.org.au <http://www.ceres.org.au/> ) and apparently they take them to dismantle and recycle the components for raw materials. A step forward perhaps now that nobody wants the old dinosaurs! So load up and drop them off!

BTW CERES is an amazing place - they have an education centre and the whole organization is focused on reduce, reuse, recycling, sustainability etc - great place to take an excursion or they visit schools also! 

Or drop down there one weekend for brekky, lunch or coffee (all wholisitic organic food - much of it grown on site) A fascinating place to spend a day with the family!!

And no - I am not advertising - CERES is a not for profit organization and relies mainly on donations by benefactors. They give more back to the community than they take J

Hope this helps

Cheers

Ros

PS So many edulist emails, so many I want to reply to - promise to get back to them all eventually!!

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Timmer-Arends
Sent: Monday, 31 March 2008 5:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Supporting Virtual Teams throughTechnology-VITTA Workshop 09/08 - Registrations Open!

You just have to walk around any neighbourhood that has a hard rubbish collection service to realise that CRT's are not valued by anyone - saw one today on its back with smashed screen in Scotchmans' Creek ....

Very sad, bloody crazy, but just shows the government's and the community's general lack of concern about having a real recycling program in Australia.

regards

Robert T-A

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	From: andrew barry <mailto:jagguy999 at gmail.com>  

	To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List <mailto:itapps at edulists.com.au>  

	Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:19 PM

	Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Supporting Virtual Teams through Technology-VITTA Workshop 09/08 - Registrations Open!

	i think i is an awful procedure for householders to have to pay to recycle, in fact plain stupid.

	If people can get rid of them from the council for free instead of paying to get rid of them they will. Charities dont want them, as i have phoned a few myself.

	When i did crt work in primary schools they were all wanting more computers, so what is going on?

	On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:57 PM, <billo at kew.hotkey.net.au> wrote:

	What a great idea.

	We can all send whole obsolete computer labs to roland to dispose of for us!

	LOL

	Bill Oldham (Sessional teacher of Year 11 and 12 IT at Chisholm TAFE)

	Quoting andrew barry <jagguy999 at gmail.com>:

	> ok sorry i didnt read your post properly.
	>
	> did you say i would need to pay to get rid of them?
	> how do i get the monitors to your school?
	>
	>
	>
	> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
	> wrote:
	>
	> > I offered to help get rid of some CRT's for staff by adding them to the
	> > school pool of monitors we are returning. I think they charge about
	> $20-40
	> > per monitor. It wasn't a big deal as we originally gave away a many of
	> these
	> > old monitors. Part of closing the loop is making the retailer / producer
	> > think about plans for the long term, correct disposal of the e-waste that
	> > they are generating .. schools have an ethical obligation to take back
	> and
	> > correctly destroy. It is the least we can now do considering the
	> > dump-masters that I once filled with e-waste.
	> >
	> > If schools think that donating equipment absolves us of all future eWaste
	> > issues, then they are in the same boat as those that give old toxic, old
	> > super-tankers to third world countries to scrap and decommission on the
	> > beaches. We are all in the same boat.
	> >
	> > Regards Roland
	> >
	> > PS: Oddly enough, if you have a brand name monitor .. some have a return
	> > to manufacturer policy (I know this is the case for IBM, Apple, HP and
	> > perhaps others)
	> >
	> >
	> > On 30/03/2008, andrew barry <jagguy999 at gmail.com> wrote:
	> > >
	> > > no these are my own crt's and i cant get rid of them.
	> > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Roland Gesthuizen <
	> > > rgesthuizen at gmail.com> wrote:
	> > >
	> > > > We pay for ComputerBank to sustainably destroy and dispose of our old
	> > > > TV's and CRT (cathode ray tubes)  These must be processed by a
	> leaded-glass
	> > > > recycler / lead smelter. Just ask them for the price, this is something
	> that
	> > > > we now factor into my ICT budget. At our school, safety comes first, so
	> does
	> > > > dealing with eWaste. VITTA have on their website a position statement
	> on
	> > > > this very issue if you need to raise the costs with your school
	> council.
	> > > >
	> > > > Heavy metal contamination from early Melbourne efforts at dealing
	> with
	> > > > industrial waste is now being recycling back into the Port Phillip
	> bay
	> > > > ecosystem from the channel dredging. If we continue to dump this stuff
	> into
	> > > > landfill, sit back folks and enjoy your gift to the future .
	> > > >
	> > > > Regards Roland
	> > > >
	> > > >
	> > > > On 29/03/2008, andrew barry <jagguy999 at gmail.com> wrote:
	> > > > >
	> > > > > they dont take crt's without the computer box.
	> > > > > they wont take my 2 crt's and old pent II
	> > > > >
	> > > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Roland Gesthuizen <
	> > > > > rgesthuizen at gmail.com> wrote:
	> > > > >
	> > > > > > Computer Bank could take this off your hands. Our college is
	> > > > > > organising another shipment of old printers, CPU cases, ewaste and
	> CRT
	> > > > > > monitors.
	> > > > > >
	> > > > > > http://vic.computerbank.org.au <http://vic.computerbank.org.au/> 
	> > > > > > "We recycle donated computers with quality free software and
	> > > > > > distribute them to disadvantaged individuals and community groups.
	> Donated
	> > > > > > computers are tested and obsolete parts are stripped and recycled
	> by
	> > > > > > volunteers."
	> > > > > >
	> > > > > > Regards Roland
	> > > > > >
	> > > > > > On 28/03/2008, andrew barry <jagguy999 at gmail.com> wrote:
	> > > > > >
	> > > > > > > Hi
	> > > > > > >
	> > > > > > > I have some crt  monitors i want to get rid of, both 19inch and
	> > > > > > > working well.
	> > > > > > > any ideas?
	> > > > > > >
	> > > > > > > also i have a cannon bubble jet printer i dont want and a old
	> > > > > > > pentium 200ghz with win95 on it.
	> > > > > > >
	> > > > > > > where can i dump this stuff or does someone have a better idea
	> > > > > > > as i hate to just throw it out on the sidewalk.
	> > > > > > >
	> > > > > > >
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