[Year 12 IT Apps] Front page question
Bane, Janet A
bane.janet.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
Fri May 18 11:15:01 EST 2007
Hi Kent, Antonia and fellow listers
What I love about this list is the fact that we can all read one document (i=
e the study design) and come up with totally different approaches! I'm afra=
id, as an old "typing and shorthand teacher", I have never done any javascri=
pting, networking or any of the other things deemed necessary to teach this=
subject. It irritates me that somehow we are just supposed to "know" all t=
his stuff (and then be able to teach it). I hope I am not offending anyone=
who has kindly shared their resources, but for my students the simple appro=
ach is the best! I don't believe the study design requires kids to know jav=
ascript or other programming software. (and if it were to be done properly,=
there simply would be suffcient time)
Thanks for your kind comments, Antonia. I am attaching FastFeet 6 which is=
a sort of revision sheet for the second part of the outcome. I would love=
others to share what they have done because I'm not sure I'm on the right t=
rack. I would also welcome feedback or comments from others on my humble ef=
forts!
Patterson River is in Carrum, (about 5kms from Frankston) near Patterson Lak=
es (whose main claim to fame is it is the "Fountain Lakes" of Kath and Kim f=
ame). Got to go, my Year 8's are waiting (and they're particularly effluent=
).
regards,
Janet Bane
Patterson River SC
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Thu 17-May-07 5:03 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Front page question
Thanks Janet, and yes, we are playing 'pretends' but call me old fashioned,=
I just would like to actually see it working which is why I am trying to 'm=
ake that happen', so I can show my charges (oops freudian slip...) errr pupi=
ls(removed the original text and replaced with the word 'charges') what I wa=
nt THEM to understand.
You know, all that stuff about retaining most of what you see, and only some=
of what you hear! But I bet you dont touch a burning match more than once..
We will most likely use the available templates to get the skeleton of the p=
ages up and running then modify these for the submission.
I say ...there lots of good ideas surfacing about this outcome from our fell=
ow listers!
ps. Where's Patterson River? I seem to have heard about that place somewher=
e before...
Time to go home now,
I'm late, I'm late, for an important date...! (I wish!!)
KB.
Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Bane, Janet A
Sent: Thu 5/17/2007 4:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Front page question
Hi Kent, I wrestled with this one too.
Here's what I did. First of all I made up a series of sheets, based on Anto=
nia's Fast Feet Website, then Sheet 5 was about security. (see attached) I=
got them to simulate a staff login and password then explained that in the=
"real world", you wouldn't be able to see the links to the rest of the site=
(or they could be greyed out) until their password was authenticated.
We are playing "pretends" here aren't we? (ie, it doesn't have to actually=
work is my understanding)
hang in there,
Janet Bane
Patterson River SC
p.s. there's stuff on the sheet about testing and evaluation as well.
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of O'Grady, Liam A
Sent: Thu 17-May-07 2:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Front page question
As far as I understand it only needs to be a prototype so the site does not=
actually have to restrict access. I am getting my students to set an action=
on the form that always takes them to the next page (the restricted site).
Regards
Liam
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]=
On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2007 1:52 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Front page question
Hi Kevork, thanks for the response but unless I misunderstand you, you are r=
eferring to network management stuff. I can do that at the server (or at lea=
st I could when I was a system manager, but not now..). My question relates=
to creating a secure page entry for the web site that students need to crea=
te for OC2.
ie, they create a link to a page on their site, it asks for a password and t=
hen, after correct entry of the password they can enter that link.
All ideas welcome...
Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Thu 5/17/2007 12:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Front page question
Hi Kent,
Passwords have to be put in via NTFS persmissions on files on the
server if you are running Win2003 or similar with IIS.
So, go to the server, use Windows explorer or My Computer locate the
file or folder on which you wish to place restrictions, and using right
mouse button, properties, click on the security tab. Add or remove
groups/users to have rights to the folder. User Everyone will need to
be removed if you don't want the ordinary browser user to see the file.
When you add a user to the allowed list, they will use their Win2003
username and password to access the file. Test it on an innocuous file
until you get the hang of it.
A slightly different process applies with a Linux server running a web
server.
Hope this makes sense
Best Wishes
> Hey listers,
> Anyone know a simple way to put a password on a selected web page for a
> 'security access' ..
> I was thinking its an 'add-in' tool but not sure.
> Only asking because its not what I would usually do but IS needed for our
> next outcome.
> My software is FrontPage - 2002 and Dreamweaver MX so any help
> appreciated..
>
> AND
> off topic..
> Any Maths gurus out there got a good link to a site with complex numbers
> and logic(2 topics) on it..I'm doing a part time online(feels like full
> time!) course and thats the next topic for my assignments. Any help
> accepted
>
> Kent Beveridge,
> I.T. co-ordinator
> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
> Horsham
>
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Charmaine Taylor
> Sent: Wed 5/16/2007 10:52 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U302 IPO
>
>
>
> Hi Carolyn,
> I can't see any requirement in the study design for an IPO chart for
> outcome 2 . The appropriate design tools for web site design include
> storyboards, annotated diagrams/mockups, layout diagrams and site maps
> and these are listed in the study design on p.28
>
> It the textbook you are using requires an IPO chart, it should be
> ignored unless as Mark said the application is to process some data. BTW
> I have been most disappointed with the textbook I am using. It contains
> annoying errors and omissions. Is anyone out there writing a book for
> 2008?
>
> Charmaine Taylor
> Sunbury Downs College
>
>
> Carolyn Pimentel wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Thanks for the really helpful articles that are posted to this site.
>>
>> I am hoping that someone may respond to this question as well.
>>
>> The requirement for an IPO chart for SAC 2 (I have used the Thomson
>> textbook one - MLK Car Design) asks for an IPO chart to be created.
>> But I am finding that this is quite challenging for my students. The
>> first SAC IPO chart was conceptually easier to explain 'Input' of
>> fields, 'Processing' of queries and 'Output' of reports. But it isnt
>> so straightforward with website.
>>
>> Does anyone have an easy, straightforward way of explaining this to
>> students for the website outcome Hopefully with examples.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
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