[Year 12 IT Apps] RE: Comment by Zach Alexakos

Fri Jun 22 12:12:52 EST 2007

Zach,

It is still a pleasure to read your comments on this list.

They help me to stop resembling a pooh faced very serious looking person when I burst out laughing as I read your comments.

Regards, Bill Oldham (Chisholm TAFE and Magical Bill's Balloonacy)

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Alexakos, Zach Z
Sent: Fri 6/22/2007 11:16 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: [Yr11 Information Technology]Re:thenewsyllabus and some general comments

I started with a combined class Yr 11 and 12 and after looking at the
course the Yr 11 students happily transferred to Year 12.  

That was my solution to the problem.  Just by-pass Yr 11 altogether.  

Zach Alexakos

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Diane Peat
Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:43 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: [Yr11 Information Technology]
Re:thenewsyllabus and some general comments

Ditto Maree! We have exactly the same scenario here - it's been a
'challenging' semester, to say the least. And I have taught all the
software
apps before this year so my knowledge of those was fine. But it's still
been
a very stressful semester for the 'select class' (read: decreasing
numbers)
of students I have.

Diane Peat
Firbank Grammar School
BRIGHTON
Telephone  9591 5188
Email  dpeat at firbank.vic.edu.au

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]On Behalf Of Maree Duivenvoorden
Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:52 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Re:
thenewsyllabus and some general comments

How fortunate to have the luxury of IT skills and application software
(Databases, Spreadsheets and Web Pages), not to mention IT theory, being
taught before Year 12. I do not have that at all (no formal IT classes
before Year 11 and this year no Unit 1 or 2 due to lack of numbers) and
my students have found it hard to keep up with learning the software,
practicing solutions and attending to the theory required all in time
for the outcomes this semester.

Maree Duivenvoorden
Head of Year 9
Toorak College
Mount Eliza Vic  3930

Direct line: 0397887252

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:17 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Re: the
newsyllabus and some general comments

This year was hard in IT11 and ITA because of the large amount of new
skills that needed to be taught for the first time - especially
databases in ITA... why that had to be the FIRST outcome I'll never
know: a very odd bit of planning, I thought.

I know I spent a LOT more time than usual on developing practical skills

  in semester 1 ITA.  I hope to get time back for theory in sem 2
because for my kids spreadsheets and web authoring are easy peasy.

Also, ITA U4O2 is a short and sweet test stemming from normal theory so
time need not be spent on learning yet another tool.

Anyway, we are all (I'm sure) madly rejigging our junior classes so the
new VCE IT skill requirements are introduced in the lower levels so
there won't be the precipitous learning curve we faced this year.

For example, the year 11 kids having done databases and programming this

year will find ITA databasing and SD programming easier next year.

fiona bain wrote:
> Not sure who to make this feedback, nor whether it was just me who
> encountered this problem with Unit 1.  I ran out of time.  I took so
long
> with the database and the original web page/publication for outcome 2
that
> outcome 3 will need to be finished in the first week of next term.
>
> Perhaps I made the mistake of having a web page for outcome 2 and
should
> have used some other form of publication?
>
> Unit 3 worked much better for us because it dropped down to 2
outcomes,
> although my students (one of whom is very pedantic) struggled with
making
> a proto-type - he wanted the real deal nor could he see the logic of
> putting the networking part with the web site (dont think he was alone
> there).
>
> Anyway I just thought this was a good time to find out how others felt
and
> perhaps pass the message on up the line (unless it was just me being
more
> disorganised than usual!). This will be the last thing I get involved
> with, I think, as I finish teaching IT next Friday.  I am off to
Brunei in
> August to teach Business Studies.
>
> I have used this list daily for the last 7 years and, without it,
would
> never have coped.  I just want to say a huge big thanks to everyone
who
> posts.  Keep up the great work. In Scotland, where I am originally
from,
> they have a saying - lang may yer lum reek - may you always have coal
in
> your fireplace - or may you always have good fortune
>
>

--
Mark Kelly
Manager - Information Systems
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
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