[Year 12 IT Apps] programming language..

Tue Jul 24 13:04:42 EST 2007

Hey Mark, which language are you giving your crayons(err pupils I mean)? I have decided to use VB6 (its what I'm learning now BEFORE I try to teach them in about 4-5 weeks)...
I'm doing the network outcome first, programming one second and the last, last! Helps with MY learning curve (I aint the sharpest crayon in MY box either!! on VB6..but I'm learning!).
Gave the same stuff to some of my sharper y8, y9 nerds, got some unexpected results..one or two jumped at it...it sorted others out to what they can(and cannot) REALLY do! Scratch is the go with my 8's right now..they love it! It even engaged previous non-engageable troublemakers!

As a teacher, I'm on a steep learning curve right now, its fun but its also damn hard work too!
KB.

Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
Sent: Tue 7/24/2007 12:35 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] prac v theory content....

I was dreading teaching programming to my year 11s (since many of them
are not the sharpest crayons in the box) but they love it.

They stay heads down, tail up, helping each other, exchanging ideas, and
staying on-topic in near-silence for a double period while I have a
snooze up the front.

Go figure!

Kent Beveridge wrote:
> Hi listers,
> I just had a look at the list Mark created to do with spreadsheeting. I, personally, dont use (or see the need to use!) all of the above functions on the list and hence not only need to teach them but also learn them before I can teach them. Having just come back this year to VCE IT, and looking at the theory to get through, I would be interested to hear other's thoughts on the volume of work to teach at this level..
> I feel that the amount of 'useable' prac to teach is over-rated and mostly impractical in the majority of cases and that the volume of theory combined with the SAC work makes for us really earning our $$$$'s. Dont know about you guys out there but I really feel it!
> I sometimes wish I could just teach one thing and it didnt change every 6 months - a bit like maths!
> Also..trying to teach programming to year 11's who havent got a clue as they think IT was the 'easy option' so chose it as a subject doesnt help! It feels a bit like throwing peanuts to monkeys and then finding out they dont like peanuts!
> Lets see now...
> this year I have..
> taught myself VB6, JAVASCRIPT, HTML, GAMEMAKER,CHANGED JOBS, MOVED HOUSE TO THE COUNTRY, TRIED TO LEARN ADVANCED EXCEL, DOING POSTGRAD ONLINE STUDIES, DOING THE TA04 COURSE,,
> JEEEZ, I need a holiday!
> 
> Kent Beveridge,
> I.T. co-ordinator
> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
> Horsham
> email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
> 
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Russell Edwards
> Sent: Tue 7/24/2007 8:53 AM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'MailingList
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: [Year 12 IPM] Suggested spreadsheet functionsto teach for ITA U4O1
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>
>
> On 30/11/2006, at 9:16 PM, Mark Kelly wrote:
>
>> A free unofficial, personal guide about how much spreadsheeting kids
>> need to know for ITA U4O1...
>>
>> Anything I've forgotten or screwed up?
>>
>
> Your list seems eminently sensible. It's probably also worth bearing
> in mind the VCAA software functions list for spreadsheets:
>
> * lookup tables
> * conditional formatting
> * conditional statements
> * cell protection
> * graphs
> * insert notes/comments
> * macros
> * relative and absolute cell references
> * naming a range
> * electronic validation
> * sheet referencing
> * formatting/layout.
>
> I take "layout" to be the link to stuff about formats and
> conventions, interfaces, yadda yadda yadda....
>
> Russell
>
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