[Year 12 IT Apps] Can anyone clarify

Charmaine Taylor tigeroz at alphalink.com.au
Fri Feb 9 22:38:59 EST 2007


The Harvard referencing method doesn't use commas.
I do not know what your query 'did you do that page?' refers to but I 
haven't written for any commercial publishers for some years.
Any publication that lists suitable references is bound to omit some 
either deliberately or inadvertently that is why lists such as this are 
so valuable. They let teachers know all the good resources out there. Of 
course some of the most useful resources come from teachers themselves, 
like those Antonia shared recently.

Keep up the good work everyone.

Charmaine Taylor
Sunbury Downs College

David Dawson wrote:

>Yes Charmaine 
>I hear you - however ....
>It would be fair for the VCAA to omit the latest VITTA CD given time constraints, but there are several others. The latest one was not a programming CD.
>The publisher I mentioned is CPU - and perhaps I will ask them if they require an errata to be published by the VCAA on the VCAA website.
>The Harvard System still requires authors in the correct order and commas where appropriate - and "et al" means more than two - "and others" I think ;-)
>The books omitted are, oddly, books which contain VCAA exams which have been paid for by CPU - do you know the two I am referring to? The VCAA should know as they got the cash AFAIK!
>BTW did you do that page?
>David Dawson
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Charmaine Taylor
>Sent: Thu 8/02/2007 11:34 PM
>To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Can anyone clarify
> 
>Hi David,
>You are using the APA referencing method while VCAA uses the Harvard 
>referencing method. Both are accepted in academic circles (although some 
>schools designate their preferred method). I prefer the Harvard method 
>but it doesn't really matter so long as the author is consistent in 
>their application of their chosen method. There is a good guide to the 
>Harvard method at www.usq.edu.au/library website.
>The errors you identified are a pity but I think most of us realise 
>everyone is under pressure to get more done in less time these days (I 
>know I'm expected to perform three people's jobs at my place) but it 
>does gives us an opportunity to validate our data and verify sources - 
>all good ITA stuff.
>Re the omission of reference by VCAA to the VITTA CD, wasn't the VCAA CD 
>produced a while before the VITTA CD?
>
>Cheers,
>Charmaine Taylor
>Sunbury Downs College
>
>David Dawson wrote:
>
>  
>
>>As part of this ongoing discussion I would like to point out that the
>>VCAA support CD for Implementing VCE IT has numerous factual and other
>>errors including:
>>- one website with incorrect title
>>- authors incorrectly represented on resources with initials and name
>>omissions (several instances)
>>- incorrect publisher on at least one book
>>- several books by major local publishers omitted
>>- poor punctuation throughout the resources, with at least 8 "formatting
>>and convention" errors
>>- year consistently recorded after the author instead of at the end of
>>the reference
>>My understanding is that resources should be listed as such: 
>>
>>Fee, Elizabeth, and Daniel M. Fox, eds. AIDS: The Burdens of History.
>>Berkeley: University of California Press, 1988.
>>
>>This does not occur anywhere under resources. If students were to make
>>such errors on VCE essays they would be penalised. Please bring this to
>>your student's attention.
>>
>>The CD also does not list any of the VITTA programming CDs as resources,
>>so I assume that they feel these are not worthwhile - but I guess this
>>is a decision that was made, not an oversight.
>>
>>People in glass houses ...... should proof-read and check resources on a
>>resources CD.
>>
>>David Dawson
>>
>>
>>
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