[Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes

Fri Feb 9 08:35:17 EST 2007

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Mark Scott wrote:
> The techs here changed my email address (again) and didn't tell me (bless them).
>  
> Seems a little late for a bucket...
>  
> But...
>  
> No, just joking.  Mark, you are a warm, wonderful, generous, pedagogically gifted individual.
>  
> Mark Scott
>  
> PS Now I need a bucket.
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Wed 7/02/2007 2:27 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
> 
> 
> 
> Shucks again, Keith.  I'm just waiting for Mark Scott to appear with his
> bucket  :-)
> 
> Thanks to everyone for the moral support.
> 
> I'm sure we'll get through this eventually.
> 
> It reminds me of a old story I just made up...
> 
> One day a handyman offers to help repair and improve an orphanage for
> the benefit of the children.  The manager of the orphanage agrees, on
> condition that the tradesman never sets foot on the property, and never
> breathes the orphanage's air.  Why? Because they *can* insist on it.
> 
> The End
> 
> Keith Richardson wrote:
>> Mark - many thanks for your history of contributions over many years.
>> Whenever I saw your name at the bottom, I immediately knew that:
>> a - there would be something I could chuckle about...
>> b - it would be somewhat irreverant...
>> c - the knowledge and facts would be absolutely spot-on...
>> Heaven forbid if this ever disappears! In fact, at times I think that
>> you and only you have helped many of us survive frustrations,
>> difficulties and dilemmas when we ask of the subject matter (IPM,
>> ITA...)what the hell does ... mean?
>> Mark - as they say, we are living in interesting times!
>> Thanks for everything, your are truely our friend (collectively, all of
>> us) even those of us who may have had our egos smudged a little if we
>> were responsible for setting any of the exam questions that were
>> later-on lampooned, we realise that you were in fact correct.
>> Cheers to you!
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:39:48 +1100, "Biggins, Leanne D"
>> <biggins.leanne.d at edumail.vic.gov.au> said:
>>> Hear hear Margaret, Kevork and everyone else.  Thanks Mark for saving my
>>> bacon on many occasions over many years.
>>>
>>>
>>> Leanne Biggins
>>> Heathmont College
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of
>>> margaret.lawson at konstantkaos.net
>>> Sent: Tue 6/02/2007 4:32 PM
>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am just catching up with this thread ... what can I say - absolute
>>> bullshit.
>>>
>>> We use the technology to COLLABORATE and to enrich the learning of the
>>> collective group, and the reward is a slap in the face.
>>>
>>> Does this "copyright" decision have ramifications for anyone presenting
>>> at
>>> conferences or PD events?
>>>
>>> Mark, a big thankyou from the IT Teaching community, your efforts have
>>> been appreciated by teachers and students alike.
>>>
>>> Grrr
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Tis a sad day.  I enjoyed your post mortems Mark.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Caroline Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Baimbridge College, Hamilton
>>>> 85 Stephen Street
>>>> HAMILTON  VIC 3300
>>>> Ph 03 5572 2788
>>>> Fax 03 5572 5811
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
>>>> Sent: Mon 05-February-2007 9:30 AM
>>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm staying out of it for the time being.
>>>>
>>>> It's the decision of VCAA's copyright officer, Renee Brierley, and Paula.
>>>>
>>>> What I'll have to do is put the copyrighted stuff (exam questions, key
>>>> knowledge & skills, glossary) on our extranet so the only people who can
>>>> reach those bits will be McKinnon students.  Sigh.
>>>>
>>>> Kevork Krozian wrote:
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel a little confused here and perhaps Mark can shed more light on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark can't publish his discussion of the questions because it is
>>>>> copyright means what ?
>>>>>
>>>>> .. that the questions are owned by the VCAA and to mention them is
>>>>> breach of intellectual property even though you are teaching the subject
>>>>> and obviously need to discuss it with your students and colleagues ?
>>>>>  .. that it does not qualify for an exemption on the grounds that it is
>>>>> not educational ???? What does that mean ? How much more educational
>>>>> does it have to be if not to discuss how Yr 12 students would be
>>>>> reasonably expected to answer the questions based on what is in the
>>>>> study design ?
>>>>>
>>>>>   I am rather confused. Mark if you are reading this please help us all
>>>>> understand the answers to these questions.
>>>>> Perhaps Paula can help us find some of these answers too .
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours in sadness
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevork Krozian
>>>>> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
>>>>> kevork at edulists.com.au
>>>>> www.edulists.com.au
>>>>> Tel: 0419 356 034
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Iaquinto"
>>>>> <IAQUIM at bialik.vic.edu.au>
>>>>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
>>>>> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree! The Post Mortem was SO valuable. And your sense of humour
>>>>>> lifted a rather difficult subject. The answers suggested were and
>>>>>> remain an excellent teaching tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any others who feel this way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maggie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Brett Davies
>>>>>> Sent: Mon 2/5/2007 5:11 PM
>>>>>> To: itapps at edulists.com.au
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How ridiculous!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those notes, post mortems and everything else you contribute have been
>>>>>> extremely valuable to my students and will be sorely missed. Does VCAA
>>>>>> propose to replace this with something just as useful?..... or have
>>>>>> they offerred no alternative just a no!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this was not educational use what was it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au  >>>
>>>>>> Apologies for cross-posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the insistence of the Copyright Officer at the VCAA I have removed
>>>>>> all of their copyrighted material from the IT Lecture Notes site,
>>>>>> including all of the exam post mortems, the course summaries, and the
>>>>>> annotated glossary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They tell me 'this is not considered an "educational use".'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't be bothered arguing with the VCAA lawyers about how many words
>>>>>> I'm allowed to quote, so there are probably not going to be any more IT
>>>>>> post mortems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just going to go away and mumble a lot now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mark Kelly
>>>>>> Manager - Information Systems
>>>>>> McKinnon Secondary College
>>>>>> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
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>>>> Mark Kelly
>>>> Manager - Information Systems
>>>> McKinnon Secondary College
>>>> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
>>>> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
>>>> School Phone +613 8520 9000
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>> Keith Richardson
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> 
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager - Information Systems
> McKinnon Secondary College
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
> School Phone +613 8520 9000
> School Fax +613 95789253
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-- 
Mark Kelly
Manager - Information Systems
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
School Phone +613 8520 9000
School Fax +613 95789253

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