[Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes

[David Dawson]

It does seem quite absurd.
If the issue is public publishing then I am happy to put them behind a
password on a server - then it is not published and no copyright breach
has occurred AFAIK.
Let's make this happen one way or another and keep this essential
resource that Mark has given his blood sweat and tears to produce with
no personal gain over a number of years.
Another POV is that the discussion can occur without the questions being
replicated
David Dawson

-----Original Message-----
From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 11:18 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes

Hi Folks,

 I feel a little confused here and perhaps Mark can shed more light on
it.

Mark can't publish his discussion of the questions because it is
copyright 
means what ?

 .. that the questions are owned by the VCAA and to mention them is
breach 
of intellectual property even though you are teaching the subject and 
obviously need to discuss it with your students and colleagues ?
  .. that it does not qualify for an exemption on the grounds that it is
not 
educational ???? What does that mean ? How much more educational does it

have to be if not to discuss how Yr 12 students would be reasonably
expected 
to answer the questions based on what is in the study design ?

   I am rather confused. Mark if you are reading this please help us all

understand the answers to these questions.
Perhaps Paula can help us find some of these answers too .

Yours in sadness

Kevork Krozian
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maggie Iaquinto" <IAQUIM at bialik.vic.edu.au>
To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List" 
<itapps at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes


>I agree! The Post Mortem was SO valuable. And your sense of humour
lifted a 
>rather difficult subject. The answers suggested were and remain an 
>excellent teaching tool.
>
> Are there any others who feel this way?
>
> Maggie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Brett Davies
> Sent: Mon 2/5/2007 5:11 PM
> To: itapps at edulists.com.au
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>
> How ridiculous!
>
> Those notes, post mortems and everything else you contribute have been

> extremely valuable to my students and will be sorely missed. Does VCAA

> propose to replace this with something just as useful?..... or have
they 
> offerred no alternative just a no!
>
> If this was not educational use what was it?
>
>
>>>> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au  >>>
> Apologies for cross-posts.
>
> At the insistence of the Copyright Officer at the VCAA I have removed
> all of their copyrighted material from the IT Lecture Notes site,
> including all of the exam post mortems, the course summaries, and the
> annotated glossary.
>
> They tell me 'this is not considered an "educational use".'
>
> I can't be bothered arguing with the VCAA lawyers about how many words
> I'm allowed to quote, so there are probably not going to be any more
IT
> post mortems.
>
> I'm just going to go away and mumble a lot now.
>
> -- 
> Mark Kelly
> Manager - Information Systems
> McKinnon Secondary College
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